[3.2]Blink & Mirror Arrow Necromancer * Shaper down * Build of the Week * Deadeye version added*
May I see your gear?
Cheap options for ES in the current 1month league are: Restless Ward chest Soul Strike quiver Voidbringer gloves You can also invest in the Unnatural Calm or Foresight nodes for a bit of an ES boost. Once you get to 1000 ish ES, try out MoM + ZO. If you can manually dodge well and use Enduring Cry you should never be blocked for mana. Mirror Arrow Summoner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1422529
Teleports Behind You: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2123293 Magma Orb Deadeye: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2736039 |
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That's the gear i'm using right now, basically i picked it up in the mountain of stuff i hoard in my stash so i could test the build, i only bought the quiver. I have like 15 old characters 70+ with full respecs so it's good to try out builds. I'm on standard by the way.
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I'm trying to get at least a bit of MF as well with the gloves as right now it doesn't make a whole lot of difference (i don't have decent ES gloves), and the boots are there mostly for the ES. Tabula is until i can get the colors right on a slightly better chest i have (6L with 65hp or so and 158 ES, that won't make a world of difference). The point is to get an idea on the potential, i'm not sure yet if i feel like investing into an ES chest, 5L bow, etc... the character is fun but there's so much stuff i'd like to try that i can't really sink all my currency into it for now. I found i was especially bad with some Masters missions (Haku has me dieing every time, and any timed mission is hell), as well as any strong ranged mobs (either because of map mobs, or some bosses) so it's a bit frustrating at times. All of my deaths were because of projectiles or slow runspeed overall. So while i know i'm much weaker than what i could use, i'm trying to get an idea of "how much" and what sort of margin i have for progression while keeping fairly cheap gear. Also i hate traps so i'll stay out of Deerstalkers anyway. :) It's a bit frustrating, as i find the character awesome overall but it has realy rough weak points, unlike most characters i've done so far who can handle it, i find the timed missions or gmp/chain maps plain impossible. Last edited by Axylxys#4902 on Oct 19, 2015, 10:08:44 AM
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Which timed missions are you having trouble with? Zana? Do you have proper movespeed boots? (the aurseize might slow you down a tad as well). The only master missions I usually struggle with are Vorici's keep guards alive, or Haku missions (can't use blink arrow while you have the Spirit).
Ranged mobs have never posed a problem for me thanks to the wall of zombies. I always had way more trouble with leapers/flickerers. I guess you just need a bigger lifepool, really. A proper ES pool with MoM makes this build 43% more tanky. 3500 HP / 1500 ES is a good benchmark for level 75-80. By 85+ you should aim for closer to 5000/2000. This truly is quite easy to do, hybrid life/ES gear is not going to be that expensive. You can easily hit 2000ES with a 400 ES chest, 150ESgloves, 150ish helm, and then random ES from other gear. Saying that this build feels squishy , without fully gearing for EB/MoM, is kinda like saying an Aegis block build feels squishy without grabbing any +armor gear. You really need it to experience the full potential. It's a shame you're not on the one-month, because Voidbringer gloves are <10 chaos there. But if you're trying to gauge the character's potential, at the very least try it with a Restless Ward chest. It's the cheapest way to start using MoM / Zealot's Oath. Even if you have to deal with 2x 4-links for a while, at least you have the +1 quiver - your damage should still be fine. Mirror Arrow Summoner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1422529
Teleports Behind You: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2123293 Magma Orb Deadeye: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2736039 |
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Zana sometimes, mostly Haku though, the raging spirits or various aoe kill me before i can make it through the map and the zombies/clones aren't enough to kill them or protect me. I'd be curious to know how you handle that.
Also for projectiles, i'm thinking mostly anything piercing, or the gmp/chain map mods, basically whenever the zombies or clones aren't enough because some stuff goes through. Especially on open maps where i can't hide behind a corner. Don't take what i said the wrong way though, i'm not saying the build is squishy as it is, i'm just trying to get an idea on how far away i am right now (i actually never played a MoM character). I'll just look for some ES gear then, anyway it's about time i get some, as i'm blocked from all ES builds because of that. Thanks ! Last edited by Axylxys#4902 on Oct 19, 2015, 2:52:07 PM
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The build definitely has potential to wreck some havoc. It does get easier the higher the gems are, the more life you get and with 6 Link stuff. I think that's with any build though. I would definitely 5 Link that bow. Think about it. Survivability comes with damage too. If you can kill quicker you will survive longer. Adding that additional link will help you kill quicker therefore taking less damage overall theoretically. There will be some masters you will have trouble with no matter what unless u have a straight single target skill to kill with which unfortunately we do not. So for those instances you are kind of sh*t out of luck. I got a pair of gloves I used up until I got a +1 socketed gem pair you can have if you are on standard. I tried messaging you in game, but no response. Let me know Ill link them. Nothing fantastic, but max life, attack speed, life regen, light resist, and es.
Last edited by Skitzofreniks#3839 on Oct 19, 2015, 5:53:22 PM
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Do the "x% increased physical damage" mods affect minions?
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" Only if it's coming from your bow, quiver, or support gems. None of your other gear or skilltree phys damage will help them. I've listed the best ways to scale our minions' damage in the "Mechanics" section of the guide. By the way, only ~15% of our damage is physical damage. So it's not really worth trying to buff their physical damage. Mirror Arrow Summoner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1422529 Teleports Behind You: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2123293 Magma Orb Deadeye: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2736039 Last edited by dariidar#0631 on Oct 21, 2015, 2:07:04 AM
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I just vaaled a +1 soul strike in 2 tries so now I feel committed to making the most out of this character.
So far the build has been incredible and I have absolutely no trouble tearing through rare 74 maps on my second day of mapping (level 76 character). Would you mind taking a look and telling me where I should go next with my gear?
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I feel like there's a lot of potential for upgrades here since most of the gear was very cheap and not that great but on the other hand this build gets very little from gear so I'm not sure where to go with it. I've got something like 70chaos right now on 1MSC (Flashback) and I'm willing to drop it on whatever upgrades. It's not enough to get a 6link but I feel like I could surely get some pretty effective upgrades out of it. Are voidbringers a good option? New jewelry and ES gear? Level 20 auras (my playtime is limited to level my own)? It's sort of awkward to switch pieces out because the dex situation is so tenuous. I'm really liking the MF of aurseize and I've considered going for a more MF-centric setup but I think I'd enjoy beefing up the damage/survivability more instead. I'm also comfortable with just sitting on my currency until I can look at better 5links or 6linking something if that's the best option, but I'd obviously prefer a more immediate upgrade if there's some good effective potential within my budget here! Edit: I also have zero jewels. I should probably allocate the ones I'm close to and pick some up. Last edited by demonguard#5146 on Oct 21, 2015, 4:26:00 AM
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Hi, thank you for the guide! I'm currently leveling the build on flashback league, for a very endgame plan i was thinking about a +3 bow version with level 4 empower instead of lioneye, this would summon level 84 clone with much more accuracy and damage than the level 20 one, sure is not a budget version but should add some damage and survivability boost, do you think will work?
IGN: crazyjake, ,BadAndAngry
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@demonguard
Sick quiver! In terms of cost effectiveness, I'd choose Voidbringer as a first upgrade, because it gives some really nice ES and a bit of damage (about 10% extra). Then I'd go for a helm upgrade, it shouldn't be too hard to find one with >100 ES and minion gems. I agree that you'll mostly be increasing your survivability now instead of damage. Like you guessed, the other options you have for increasing damage are: -jewels -Sidhebreath (easy to corrupt for +1 curse / +minion damage) -6L (lots of corrupted 6L chests floating around in 1msc due to Corrupting Tempests) @crazyjake Don't know if it's worth it. Unlike SRS, Empower doesn't give much extra damage to our minions, just a bit more accuracy. And to use Empower, you'll be losing a damage-multiplying support gem. Furthermore, what is the point of using a different bow? Most bows will have slower attack speed than Lioneye's which means you then need to worry about getting an Attack speed quiver / Vaal Haste / Flesh Offering / Faster Attacks. Furthermore, a +3 bow will only have 1 prefix slot left for damage, which means that it will likely have lower DPS than Lioneye's. Even if the +3 bow somehow deals higher phys damage than Lioneye's, it doesn't matter much, because the majority of our damage (like 80%) is elemental anyways. On the other hand, if the +3 bow has elemental damage on it, that means that you can't apply Elemental Equilibrium with Split Arrow (which can triple our damage against high resist enemies). As a side note, even if you replace Lioneye's with Glyph Mark in my DPS calculator and then account for accuracy, Lioneye's still comes out ahead. Mirror Arrow Summoner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1422529 Teleports Behind You: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2123293 Magma Orb Deadeye: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2736039 Last edited by dariidar#0631 on Oct 21, 2015, 11:47:16 AM
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