[2.2] Surt's Satanic Seizure ~ Oro's Infinite Flicker! CHIEFTAIN IS AMAZING

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tim4el wrote:

Hi! At first, awesome build, enjoying everything about it, atm sitting on 7738 avg. dmg on flicker and 8.33 aps, and 5k hp, thinking to change my chest out for a Kaom's for a huge life boost and some more dps. Here are my current items, true, need to upgrade some of em, like rings and ammy, and even belt to higher ele dmg and have to add ele dmg to gloves.

Glad you're enjoying the build! Are you playing on HC? I actually miss my 6 link chest because I prefer having more sockets. I also don't have a 6 link Oro like a lot of people on here.

I would not suggest using Faster Attacks, Fire Pen should be your 6th link, the damage increase will be massive. You can use Fortify instead of Melee Splash for strictly single target work, such as pvp, or certain bosses.

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a1mandf1re wrote:

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Keyen wrote:

Spend 2 node points getting the mana leech in the duelist area, remove the blood magic gem, get the fortify gem.
Even in case you can't sustain the flicker, just get the righteous decree in the templar area (2 more points). If for 4 points, you can get perma fortify, I would say it's worth it.

This. If it's possible to sustain without the blood magic gem it opens up more possibilities for clearspeed or survivability. I think blood magic is not necessary these days, will test in 4-5 hours when I am in the proper level range.

I haven't been able to sustain it without blood magic, but haven't tried it with the nodes suggested, you could give that a shot. Just for myself, if I were to drop the BM gem, I would use Mana Leech instead or maaaaaaybe Faster Attacks, but my pc would probably crash. I would use a green gem here, because then I could use Reduce Enemy Block/Dodge gem for pvp.

A lot of people here are forgetting, this build was designed, and has been since the Oro item first came out, to flicker fuck a single target to death, without having to do anything but hold down flicker. My main goal was pvp. You should never have to stop and use another skill to gain charges unless you're a long distance between packs.

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roguemjb wrote:

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tim4el wrote:

Hi! At first, awesome build, enjoying everything about it, atm sitting on 7738 avg. dmg on flicker and 8.33 aps, and 5k hp, thinking to change my chest out for a Kaom's for a huge life boost and some more dps. Here are my current items, true, need to upgrade some of em, like rings and ammy, and even belt to higher ele dmg and have to add ele dmg to gloves.

Glad you're enjoying the build! Are you playing on HC? I actually miss my 6 link chest because I prefer having more sockets. I also don't have a 6 link Oro like a lot of people on here.

I would not suggest using Faster Attacks, Fire Pen should be your 6th link, the damage increase will be massive. You can use Fortify instead of Melee Splash for strictly single target work, such as pvp, or certain bosses.

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a1mandf1re wrote:

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Keyen wrote:

Spend 2 node points getting the mana leech in the duelist area, remove the blood magic gem, get the fortify gem.
Even in case you can't sustain the flicker, just get the righteous decree in the templar area (2 more points). If for 4 points, you can get perma fortify, I would say it's worth it.

This. If it's possible to sustain without the blood magic gem it opens up more possibilities for clearspeed or survivability. I think blood magic is not necessary these days, will test in 4-5 hours when I am in the proper level range.

I haven't been able to sustain it without blood magic, but haven't tried it with the nodes suggested, you could give that a shot. Just for myself, if I were to drop the BM gem, I would use Mana Leech instead or maaaaaaybe Faster Attacks, but my pc would probably crash. I would use a green gem here, because then I could use Reduce Enemy Block/Dodge gem for pvp.

A lot of people here are forgetting, this build was designed, and has been since the Oro item first came out, to flicker fuck a single target to death, without having to do anything but hold down flicker. My main goal was pvp. You should never have to stop and use another skill to gain charges unless you're a long distance between packs.

Nah, playing in Standart, dont like HC lol. today i did change HoI and HoT to a Wrath, got over 8k avg dmg, today wanna change chest's for Kaom's. Doing fine damage with all bosses with that link on oro's, highest map Tier was so far 12 and it was easy.

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roguemjb wrote:

I haven't been able to sustain it without blood magic, but haven't tried it with the nodes suggested, you could give that a shot. Just for myself, if I were to drop the BM gem, I would use Mana Leech instead or maaaaaaybe Faster Attacks, but my pc would probably crash. I would use a green gem here, because then I could use Reduce Enemy Block/Dodge gem for pvp.

The manaleech gem is useless, because 0,4% mana leech from the node is enough. Faster attack is not really sexy since you are using flicker (14% as per frenzy charge), but I guess it is the gem to go if you don't need fortify.

I wasn't in a pvp setting at all, since you can miss from block/dodge a lot more, and thus, not regen mana.

Tested and I can confirm that you can sustain flicker with mana leech. However you have to take all 3 leech nodes in the duelist tree and I had to grab the life + mana reduction nodes instead of the bloodless nodes (same %life). Also I'm using one 5% mana reduction jewel as well, I've only played up to t7 with this setup and I have no had any mana problems thus far. Will test higher tier when I have more levels and life cheers.

Hey, insane Build.
Could you please post a new Gem-Link Setup with Lightning Strike?
Maybe im blind but i didnt found it yet, if there is alrdy one.

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andreschilling97 wrote:

Hey, insane Build.
Could you please post a new Gem-Link Setup with Lightning Strike?
Maybe im blind but i didnt found it yet, if there is alrdy one.

All you need on LS now is Multistrike, but a Faster Attacks would be my second choice. No need for LMP or anything else. You can also try Spectral Throw with an LMP, but after extensive use with both, I prefer LS.

Just as a heads up, your profile is set to private, so anyone wanting to view your exact links are currently unable to.

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Jamesborg99 wrote:

Just as a heads up, your profile is set to private, so anyone wanting to view your exact links are currently unable to.

Hide Characters was checked, thanks for the heads up!

The whole idea of building frenzy charges by other skill is nuts, in ur vid you are VERY slow, purely because of this issue. 2.0, i know, but still whole idea slows u really bad. Blood magic here is another problem, with very small leech points investment you can free this gem slot, and gain much more damage with almost any other support gem. On top of that - Chieftain kinda sux. If you wanna leech - go for slayer, right side, with sustained, stun immune leech its much better, other bonuses are much better, and on top of that - you can get rid of 160% mana multiplier melee splash, effectively gaining fortify (best imho) for nothing.

Kaoms is obvious choice, and double blasphemy flammability and warlords mark gives a ton of survi and damage. Much more than CoH setups, cos with flicker u rarely trigger cwdt. Also - get chance to ignite in ur link and thanks to this - u can go with proper life/WED/flat fire rings, or even doedre, if you dont want windscreams.

At 90 lvl, im sitting on 5 frenzy, 4 endu, 7,2k dmg with 9,3 APS, over 7k hp, fortify, perma flicking through anything from start incredibly fast and with full frenzy charges all the time, without any painfully slow "building charges, weak, vulnerable, slow" phase. I can clear maps faster than other ppl move with whirling blades, i had whole zanas rotation parties following my tail with movement skills and barely keeping my speed. Sorry for bragging, but its a better way to build INSANE oro's flicker.

Question:

Why do you take Physical damage on the tree if Oro's is pure fire damage?