[2.1] Voltaxic LA by ad1ce (Talisman Rank 3)

I am at lvl 86, using snake bite, need to decide how to use the next 4 points.(I would stop at lvl 90 or 91). Below is my tree



I am thinking of using these 4 points either to get Fatal Toxins or Method to the Madness, which is better? How much real dps boost you get from Fatal Toxins? Or is there a better option?

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hupple wrote:

I am at lvl 86, using snake bite, need to decide how to use the next 4 points.(I would stop at lvl 90 or 91). Below is my tree

passive tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4B3AUtCC4NjQ-rFCAWvxmKGY4hdiPTI_YkiyT9JpUqCy5TMHwx-jY9N9Q51EMxR35KfUtXTP9Nkk4qUUdVS1WFWhpbr13yXz9fsGHiYqxlTWyMbWxvO2-ecFJ07XXLdvd3B3fjeWh67311fyuDCYTFhNmGzocTh3aJ04w2jX2Nfo2_j2CXBpuNm7WcpJ2qoJ-jiqXLqW6v67VIt7a74702vqfAGsDjwQTBM8MzwzrEospK02_TftQj2sHjn-dU6mLtP-2D7g7vDu968bP8xf66_94=

I am thinking of using these 4 points either to get Fatal Toxins or Method to the Madness, which is better? How much real dps boost you get from Fatal Toxins? Or is there a better option?

If you're planning to use poison at all with BR or any single target skill then Fatal Toxins is irreplaceable. The amount of increased poison damage you get is really good when double dipping with any additional increased damage bonuses you have. However, you took a different path with your tree and my build is slightly different from ad1ce's so you're able to take either Method to the Madness or Fatal Toxins. If you're going to run strictly Snakebites with no Poison gem then I would take Fatal Toxins. However, I would take Method to the Madness if you were to run or ever change into rare gloves with Poison gem.

Also, I see that you didn't take Druidic Bite? Druidic Bite is really good so if you might want to think of investing into that. The flask bonuses are really good and it gives int which our build desperately needs. The max mana is also a nice bonus.

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dezahp wrote:

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hupple wrote:

I am at lvl 86, using snake bite, need to decide how to use the next 4 points.(I would stop at lvl 90 or 91). Below is my tree

passive tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4B3AUtCC4NjQ-rFCAWvxmKGY4hdiPTI_YkiyT9JpUqCy5TMHwx-jY9N9Q51EMxR35KfUtXTP9Nkk4qUUdVS1WFWhpbr13yXz9fsGHiYqxlTWyMbWxvO2-ecFJ07XXLdvd3B3fjeWh67311fyuDCYTFhNmGzocTh3aJ04w2jX2Nfo2_j2CXBpuNm7WcpJ2qoJ-jiqXLqW6v67VIt7a74702vqfAGsDjwQTBM8MzwzrEospK02_TftQj2sHjn-dU6mLtP-2D7g7vDu968bP8xf66_94=

I am thinking of using these 4 points either to get Fatal Toxins or Method to the Madness, which is better? How much real dps boost you get from Fatal Toxins? Or is there a better option?

If you're planning to use poison at all with BR or any single target skill then Fatal Toxins is irreplaceable. The amount of increased poison damage you get is really good when double dipping with any additional increased damage bonuses you have. However, you took a different path with your tree and my build is slightly different from ad1ce's so you're able to take either Method to the Madness or Fatal Toxins. If you're going to run strictly Snakebites with no Poison gem then I would take Fatal Toxins. However, I would take Method to the Madness if you were to run or ever change into rare gloves with Poison gem.

Also, I see that you didn't take Druidic Bite? Druidic Bite is really good so if you might want to think of investing into that. The flask bonuses are really good and it gives int which our build desperately needs. The max mana is also a nice bonus.

I do have a rare glove I can use.


But for now I am not sure if I want to use it or not. The reason is I have two snakebite with color GGRR and GGGR so I can easily choose using HoI or HoT, but with a rare glove, I need to stick with one setup. I think for now I will choose Fatal Toxins and later if I decide to use rare gloves I will just respect these 4 points.

Yeah I agree Druidic Rite is pretty good. Just not that high priority for me since I play in SC not HC. I will have it at lvl 91. Btw, Druidic Rite has not int, the one has is Primal Spirit.

Ah yea my mistake lol got a little mixed up I think while I was typing

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dezahp wrote:

found this ring today minus the 35 dex. such a good ring i wanted to use it but i needed at least int or another res to make it work with my build and gear. i crafted the flat dmg so it could roll suffix only and hoped it would roll a res or int...it rolled dex :( i'm pretty sad i can't use the ring.

first league i haven't made multiple characters. i enjoy my build so much that i somehow keep finding new things to tweak or new goals for my build and i've been min-maxing my build a lot. i've been finding it so incredibly hard/impossible to find rings that i want/need along with having high WED

used up so much currency because of vaaling my items and having them constantly brick and turn worthless so i keep having to look for replacements. finally finished and its awesome! hungry abyss+retch+vinktar+taste+atziri is just so amazingly good especially with 6.4k life with lightning coil

let me know any thoughts or feedback :)

Thoughts on rat's nest vs the retch? (Swapping to a rare belt instead of a rare helmet) All you really earn from the retch is flask duration (marginally counteracted by reduced flask charges gained). Sure, this means longer taste of hate and vinktar's, but if you're killing quick and consistent the added duration isn't very necessary as you'll likely have full flasks most of the time. The move speed on rat's nest is permanent so you wouldn't be missing that from losing the retch. You'd also be gaining some hefty crit chance and attack speed. This sounds like a good exchange to me instead of a few seconds longer on taste of hate and vinktar's (in my opinion, you only need the duration to be as long as the 2-3 seconds where you have an 'oh shit' moment and press your flasks to be prepared for a heavy physical hit and need to leech a lot with vinktar's)
If you have any insight on this I'd love to hear what your justifications for the retch are.

Retch allows me to push my build even further. With my build I use lightning coil + retch + taste of hate + vinktars. The extra duration gives me longer mitigation that I need with taste + additional 10 max lightning res with vinktars. The flask duration far outweighs the reduced flask charges gained. It is so incredibly good especially with things like boss rooms that don't spawn ads (or very slow) where the long flask duration shines the most. Don't forget that I'm also using hungry abyss which is what ties my whole build together. I get insane leech which gives me extra chaos damage based on 200% of my leech. It even gives me additional regular leech and the additional movement is awesome.

I didn't focus my build around clearing as clearing is so easy already and requires the least of my attention. I've been pushing my build for the hardest content in the game in regards to the higher tier map bosses. That means stuff like twinned daresso + core malachai, etc. I also enjoy my build far more than all the other mathil look-alike builds with rats nest and/or maligaros as it's different than everyone else's. With rats I don't get any hp either or any res that I would otherwise get which makes building around coil even harder. I watch all these other LA builds using rats/nest with 4k-5k life die easily or get 1 shot whenever they do get hit. I try to put myself against the hardest mods and maps and hardly ever die. Personally, I'd take the +90 life and res relm + retch over rat's nest any day on my build.

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ad1ce wrote:

I believe someday GGG add new single target skill for archers :)

Be careful what you wish for ;]]]]]

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jardocanthate wrote:

Be careful what you wish for ;]]]]]

dreams come true :DDD
I think I have still two wishes. So the next one... mm... oh w8! some time ago I wrote about anti point blank and Deadeye subclass have it! So the last one wish... how about some MTX for archer skills? maybe LA(purple)/Split(with some energy trails)/Puncture(like an dried lake archer plz)

Hey ad1ce, I know my build is varied and different from yours but the foundation of my build came from yours when I was looking for LA build. Best LA build guide imo since Blastrophe's LA build from many leagues ago. A few videos I recorded if you'd like to just check it out :). This is my favorite build I've done in any league and thoroughly enjoy it, thanks!. I recorded a few videos if you wanna check it out.

Twinned T15 Colosseum Ambrius - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4S3qTks4nU
Twinned T15 Abyss Kaom - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2X8biW_vc
Twinned T14 Conservatory Vaal - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bjcw6vdJkc&feature=youtu.be

you might need to skip through some parts as i might be standing around or typing for a short moment. i was running twin clears + boss kill services for people for the challenges.

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dezahp wrote:

Twinned T15 Colosseum Ambrius - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4S3qTks4nU
Twinned T15 Abyss Kaom - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2X8biW_vc
Twinned T14 Conservatory Vaal - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bjcw6vdJkc&feature=youtu.be

nice videos :)