[2.0] [HC Tempest] lvl 88 RT Ele Split Arrow Totems

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Flouyd wrote:

Did you test LA or SA together with pierce gem instead of chain? It doesn't have the less multiplayer like chain and unless you fighting very small groups you hit the same amount of targets with chain and pierce. The gem gives 69% + 10% from quiver and 15% from the quest reward jewel for 94% pierce

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skuadak wrote:

it may even happen that I don't keep this in stash

for absolutely no reason

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DeadlyParadox wrote:

How do you feel about this build vs. physical crit? I put together this tree:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAm42v6wgu7YMZjgBe0359de96_rruDvajo4oVICP23Q0s6Y19TZJbrwDuhrMwfCF2Kk1RR38rhs5H4j8nlQXnVI2_N9Q-zznUwTMi4krICIkk_QW11CPtP73mdvekOW6qmvH_3ujWMHEx-rXyZIRdaOd03aignzWSBqDKqW1sS3jYvfm9tUhVhTY9OkL-CgYj8-qly-ywnaq3Ph9BKguMC2KsbIyDzAMecFK5fDwtFr_GroNfJpXE9hDMYeJyqa-nK7ZVS6yqHM6MRow2WfMrUPiTGjhyDw3NkFWUb2ae_lQnL2ZUWOXDE1oro_I=

It picks up Acrobatics and doesn't need to take the aura nodes to have a mana pool to cast from, allowing me to grab critical strike chance on the tree.

I'm thinking of using Lightning Arrow with Rain of Splinters to give it LMP without requiring a support gem. This allows me to use Pierce or Chain and play towards the totem's strengths of an additional support.

My links will probably include Physical to Lightning and WED, fully converting the damage into lightning, and then scaling it with WED's more multiplier, as well as scaling Hatred and Herald of Ash. My last link would probably be Lightning Penetration, but I'm not too sure.

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yojimoji wrote:

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DeadlyParadox wrote:

How do you feel about this build vs. physical crit? I put together this tree:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAm42v6wgu7YMZjgBe0359de96_rruDvajo4oVICP23Q0s6Y19TZJbrwDuhrMwfCF2Kk1RR38rhs5H4j8nlQXnVI2_N9Q-zznUwTMi4krICIkk_QW11CPtP73mdvekOW6qmvH_3ujWMHEx-rXyZIRdaOd03aignzWSBqDKqW1sS3jYvfm9tUhVhTY9OkL-CgYj8-qly-ywnaq3Ph9BKguMC2KsbIyDzAMecFK5fDwtFr_GroNfJpXE9hDMYeJyqa-nK7ZVS6yqHM6MRow2WfMrUPiTGjhyDw3NkFWUb2ae_lQnL2ZUWOXDE1oro_I=

It picks up Acrobatics and doesn't need to take the aura nodes to have a mana pool to cast from, allowing me to grab critical strike chance on the tree.

I'm thinking of using Lightning Arrow with Rain of Splinters to give it LMP without requiring a support gem. This allows me to use Pierce or Chain and play towards the totem's strengths of an additional support.

My links will probably include Physical to Lightning and WED, fully converting the damage into lightning, and then scaling it with WED's more multiplier, as well as scaling Hatred and Herald of Ash. My last link would probably be Lightning Penetration, but I'm not too sure.

I think crit can work well with totems. I dislike the fact that you do not get anything from travelling to Templar besides those few totem nodes. I do not think profane chemistry is worth it. You already got herbalism. I'd rather fill out the Scion life wheel for those 3 points and get 3 more increased max life. Also as you are crit you could grab the Templar power charge for 2 points and maybe even the Shadow power charge but I think it isn't worth it. Then use something like Split Arrow + Power Charge on Crit + Curse on Hit + Curse and use it to generate charges. Or use Assassin's Mark with Fenzy or Frenzy PCoC. Power Charges should be easy to get. Unless you really want the totem placement speed you could drop totemic zeal for the Scion jewel socket next to the proj damage nodes.

Rain of Splinters is nice because it saves a gem socket. On the other hand it lowers your damage. With RoS jewel, Chain and RAT lowering your damage you got a lot to make up for.

I am not sure why everyone is so keen on converting all their phys damage to ele and going WED for the multiplyer. Am I missing something here? You could just use Increased Crit Damage and PPAD (Phys. Proj. Attack Damage) right? That way EE and Resist maps don't slow you down as much. With LA + Chain + RAT + PPAD + Crit Damage + Faster Attacks and RoS you should do great DPS, especially if you get yourself some Power and Frenzy charges.

One question I got though: how do you plan to sustain your mana?

Also I wanted to answer way earlier but I was away the whole week. Pushing for 90 now on the totem build.

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DeadlyParadox wrote:

I'm not running chain. I'm using Pierce in Lioneye's Vision and Poacher's Aim, along with Rain of Splinters on the tree.

Converting everything into elemental with Physical to Lightning lets me use WED for a 59% more damage multiplier and lets me run Lightning Penetration. Normally the 50% of lightning damage built into Lightning Arrow would be severely reduced against elemental resistant mobs. This helps to counteract that. Also, a bigger lightning damage base lets me shock larger health targets very consistently. I'm not sure if PPAD, Faster Attacks, and Crit Damage out does it though.

Because of the physical to elemental conversion, things such as weapon elemental damage % on gear turn into the equivalent of physical damage increases. They also increase the damage of Hatred and Herald of Ash. It also makes Atziri's Promise 100% effective. It gives me 40% extra damage as chaos due to my damage conversion.

I think Profane Chemistry is worth it as long as the damage you take doesn't one-shot you. The healing increase out performs 3% life.

Physical damage opens up the opportunity to use Puncture traps for single target. I cannot use a single target RAT because of Rain of Splinters on the tree reducing my totem damage.


http://i.imgur.com/4cvifbn.png

I've been using mana flasks to manage mana so far. I haven't ran into real issues because they have 6 charges. I'm not sure if there's a way to solve that.

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yojimoji wrote:

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DeadlyParadox wrote:

I'm not running chain. I'm using Pierce in Lioneye's Vision and Poacher's Aim, along with Rain of Splinters on the tree.

Converting everything into elemental with Physical to Lightning lets me use WED for a 59% more damage multiplier and lets me run Lightning Penetration. Normally the 50% of lightning damage built into Lightning Arrow would be severely reduced against elemental resistant mobs. This helps to counteract that. Also, a bigger lightning damage base lets me shock larger health targets very consistently. I'm not sure if PPAD, Faster Attacks, and Crit Damage out does it though.

Because of the physical to elemental conversion, things such as weapon elemental damage % on gear turn into the equivalent of physical damage increases. They also increase the damage of Hatred and Herald of Ash. It also makes Atziri's Promise 100% effective. It gives me 40% extra damage as chaos due to my damage conversion.

I think Profane Chemistry is worth it as long as the damage you take doesn't one-shot you. The healing increase out performs 3% life.

Physical damage opens up the opportunity to use Puncture traps for single target. I cannot use a single target RAT because of Rain of Splinters on the tree reducing my totem damage.


http://i.imgur.com/4cvifbn.png

I've been using mana flasks to manage mana so far. I haven't ran into real issues because they have 6 charges. I'm not sure if there's a way to solve that.

My main issue with mana flasks is that they take the slot of another flask. Mana flasks in general are really good at sustaining mana of course. Running one more utility flask is huge though. I invested 4 points on my passive tree into mana, which is a lot of investment too but allows me to run another flask. In the end it comes down to preference I would say.

Puncture trap is good single target and without chain your LA dps should be fine. You lose the crazy AoE of Chain sadly but you can't have everything I guess.

For entry level mapping your DPS is nice and with 5 frenzy charges and being a crit build it should soon be higher than mine on Split Arrow as I am using RT. Good Phys Crit bows can get expensive pretty fast of course. Also a Drillneck should do a lot for you with all that pierece chance.

Your reasoning for the ele conversion makes sense. Not sure if one or the other variant is better. You could do some testing and see what you end up with.

How do you generate Power Charges by the way? PCoC on Frenzy? Nice build overall, I think ranged attack totems are pretty good at the moment although nobody seems to play them.

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kinanischka wrote:

Really cool looking build. I'll definitely give this one a go.