[2.2] [Updated, Uber down again] Heavy Armour Mjolner v2.0 (Build + Uber Guide)

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Sophronius wrote:

I just chanced a Mjolner in warbands and want to try this build out, I am curious though on what bandit rewards you take?

Grats! :) My bandit rewards are hp, attack speed, and power charge. In the end you should have 5 power charges and 7 end charges (with +1 magnate).

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Glaciez wrote:

Also do you have the damage calculations on iron will vs lightning pen? Current running 8 endurance 5 power charges and 414 str if that helps.

I only did some rough mental math on this before, but we can lay it out in simple math: IW bumps my spell damage up by about 58%, but I'm gonna say it's 50% because I want to ignore the 10% lightning damage from lightning pen quality for comparison sake.

lightning pen would give a 35% boost to lightning damage against non-resist mobs, and 140% boost to lightning damage against a resist capped player (75% all res).

Assume I do equal parts fire and lightning damage. Let's say I do 1 fire damage and 1 lightning damage per arbitrary unit time

Against non resist mobs

with IW, we do 1.5(1+1)=3 damage

with lightning pen, we do 1*1.35+1=2.35 damage

Against 75% resist mobs

with IW, we do 3(1-0.75)=0.75 damage

with lightning pen, we do 1(1-0.75)+1(1-0.75+0.35)=0.85 damage

but this is not it, consider the effect of 20/20 elemental weakness on a map boss. 44% penetration at 40% effectiveness is 17.6%

Against 75% resist, cursed map boss

IW: 3(1-0.75+0.176)=1.278 damage

lightning pen: 1(1-0.75+0.176)+1(1-0.75+0.176+0.35)=1.202 damage.

So, IW is better in every scenario as long as you don't forget to curse.

This was what I kind of guessed in the beginning: We lack spell damage scaling from tree & gears, and we already have ele weakness as a method of resist penetration. Therefore it's better to get a lot of base spell damage from Iron Will so that it can be amplified via ele weakness, rather than trying to further amplify a smaller base damage with lightning pen.

Mathematically, it's like if you set the sum of two numbers to be a constant, the product of these two numbers are maximized when they are the closest in magnitude. It's better to have a balance of base spell damage and amplification (resist pen), than a poor base damage and a lot of amplification.

Can you use cyclone + blood magic as a trigger ?

I'm having the hardest time getting 3 green/3 red sockets on the Kingsguard :-\

Is this build viable without volls amulet?

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avstrolopitek1 wrote:

Is this build viable without volls amulet?

not really

I can't decide which build to choose ,
1)[2.0] [Revamped & Uber Farming Optimized] Heavy Armour Mjolner v2.0 (Build + Uber Guide
2)[2.0] Mjolner life based Rainbownuke witch, reflect immune !!UBER DOWN!!
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1318464


Both look strong , sgw9426 can you put some videos , uber killing and some hard maps ?

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zeldzioszka wrote:

I can't decide which build to choose ,
1)[2.0] [Revamped & Uber Farming Optimized] Heavy Armour Mjolner v2.0 (Build + Uber Guide
2)[2.0] Mjolner life based Rainbownuke witch, reflect immune !!UBER DOWN!!
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1318464


Both look strong , sgw9426 can you put some videos , uber killing and some hard maps ?

if you read both guids a little bit more intense, you will see that nearly both are, except for a few skillpoints and a few rare item prefix/suffix, the same idea and nearly the same stats... you can easily go on this build here with dory cata or heartbreaker or any spell + cull item if you wanna go that way...

Hey
just want to know what do you think about my gear and tree. Is this uber viable ?


And here is my tree (slightly changed):


My defence stats without any flask:


And stats with ruby, topaz and granite:


Thanks.

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RicoKGB wrote:

Can you use cyclone + blood magic as a trigger ?

I tried it and it's good in some situations. But since this is first and foremost an uber farming build, I use lightning strike since it's a much safer option.

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zeldzioszka wrote:

I can't decide which build to choose ,
1)[2.0] [Revamped & Uber Farming Optimized] Heavy Armour Mjolner v2.0 (Build + Uber Guide
2)[2.0] Mjolner life based Rainbownuke witch, reflect immune !!UBER DOWN!!
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1318464


Both look strong , sgw9426 can you put some videos , uber killing and some hard maps ?

Different concepts really. I designed my build to be farm uber with no risk, since I'm not a particularly high-skilled player myself, and I only get around 20 fps in Apex/Abyss. When I came up the build I really only had one thing in mind, which was to facetank the trio and uber through fps drops.

A friend is working on a video for me! He uses my build and farms uber regularly.

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11206321 wrote:

if you read both guids a little bit more intense, you will see that nearly both are, except for a few skillpoints and a few rare item prefix/suffix, the same idea and nearly the same stats... you can easily go on this build here with dory cata or heartbreaker or any spell + cull item if you wanna go that way...

I don't know about that.. Perhaps you could read both guides just a little bit more intensely.

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Slayer7041 wrote:

Hey
just want to know what do you think about my gear and tree. Is this uber viable ?

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And here is my tree (slightly changed):

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMAAZEB5wSzBS0FQg3NDlwRLRLhFCAUTRVQFm8XLxiRGS4aPhpVG_oczhzcHRQgbiFgJLAl3ycvJ-0pLimlK1AsnC3SMtE26DndOtg9Dz38QKBBlkPnRKtFR0V-RmlMs1AwVa5V1lcNWGNfP2EhaPJq-nTtdPF2rHrvfIN8uHy7gKSCB4IQgpuE74zPjmSPGo9Gj6aQVZHOlmyaO57Nn8uiAKLqpBmnCKcwrY2us6-ntiy2-ryfwGbEFcT2xtjPftD10iHZYdl82sHfsOFz42rr7uw47w7wH_Gs8kH2SPem-tL8S_5U

My defence stats without any flask:

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And stats with ruby, topaz and granite:

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Thanks.

Your stats look fine for uber! However, I strongly recommend using a +1 end charge magnate, otherwise I think you run into deaths from not being able to refresh flasks. I think that belt is almost mandatory.

You can regret revelry and grab a jewel slot instead. Use a +2 mana gained on hit viridian jewel, and you gain 10 stats leading up to the jewel socket and whatever else the jewel gives you.

Otherwise the tree looks good, and your character is ready for uber :) Be sure to follow my trio tactics since it is where most deaths occur if done improperly.

Good luck!