[2.2 Video Guide] Beginner's Build: Dual Flame Totem, Blood Magic Chieftain [Atziri & HC/SC Viable]

Bought a shitty Consuming Dark and divined it twice.



Yeh yeh tooltip dps rises a bit when I swap Fire Pen with Inc Crit Multi. Still not liking it though.

There are actually some mobs including bosses that are resistant to chaos. And I don't like that I can do shit against it. With Flammability and Fire Pen I can penetrate through 35% of a 39% lowered Resistance at gem level 20.

In addition the applied Poison DoT is half the damage of Ignite.

Plus a very good rare wand + Fire Pen gem will probably still out-dps The Consuming Dark + Inc Crit Multi gem even in tooltip.

I can see its potential for builds who have massive problems with reflect e.g. crit Flameblast or Discharge. At least we do not have such problems.

Do I miss any considerable advantages related to Flame Totem? Please tell me. Otherwise there is a well rolled dagger for trade...
"Temporal Chains multiplies the duration on the monster that you are already multiplying through duration multipliers of poison damage."
- Inception by Kripp, 2017
Last edited by Tizid#0958 on Jul 25, 2015, 9:33:14 PM
can anyone tell me if its a bad idea to go for the dual curse nodes and run flammability/elemental weakness + enfeeble/tempchains? does that take away too much from the dmg? Additionally, why not use Artic Armor instead of hearld of thunder? what are the pros and cons.. i can't seem to decide atm.


the gear and tree (dual curse) atm lvl 81. Doing about 12k dual weild. and 9k with shield.

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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBAuMEswelC2EOPBBYEMwRLRQgFHEWbxhqGS4aOBo-HRQkqiW8Jy8n7SkuKo0rtiycLKcy0TbYNuk6WDrYPC1FR0WdRtdJG0mySsRQR1NSVcZXDVcpWAdY5VnzWiteXV8_Zp5o8nGFcg94L3hpfIN8uHzlffWCB4IQgpuDX4PMh2WMRo9GkFWaO5rgm6GiAKPyp5SsmK2Nr2y3PsBmwxPE9sauz37R_dIh1abYvdlh2XzbT9-w37_gw-Fz42rr7uw47FXtPO8O8B_xbPGs8kH2rvfX-JP60v4K
Last edited by cKranez#1737 on Jul 25, 2015, 11:01:10 PM
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cKranez wrote:
can anyone tell me if its a bad idea to go for the dual curse nodes and run flammability/elemental weakness + enfeeble/tempchains? does that take away too much from the dmg? Additionally, why not use Artic Armor instead of hearld of thunder? what are the pros and cons.. i can't seem to decide atm.


the gear and tree (dual curse) atm lvl 81. Doing about 12k dual weild. and 9k with shield.

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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBAuMEswelC2EOPBBYEMwRLRQgFHEWbxhqGS4aOBo-HRQkqiW8Jy8n7SkuKo0rtiycLKcy0TbYNuk6WDrYPC1FR0WdRtdJG0mySsRQR1NSVcZXDVcpWAdY5VnzWiteXV8_Zp5o8nGFcg94L3hpfIN8uHzlffWCB4IQgpuDX4PMh2WMRo9GkFWaO5rgm6GiAKPyp5SsmK2Nr2y3PsBmwxPE9sauz37R_dIh1abYvdlh2XzbT9-w37_gw-Fz42rr7uw47FXtPO8O8B_xbPGs8kH2rvfX-JP60v4K


In your scenario you've traded a) 18% increased Fire/Ele Damage and 5% increased Life + 3 free nodes for b) a second curse, while both your curses gain 10% increased Effect.

Let's suggest with the free 3 skillpoints in situation a) you take Celestial Punishment + another 5% increased Life node:

49% increased Fire/Ele Damage + 10% increased Life vs. -46% monster Resistance

Hard to say but I don't think it worth it.

Edit: A party always loves two curses.

I'd love to play with Ele Weakness on Hit implicit + 2nd curse on amu. Quite expensive though.
"Temporal Chains multiplies the duration on the monster that you are already multiplying through duration multipliers of poison damage."
- Inception by Kripp, 2017
Last edited by Tizid#0958 on Jul 26, 2015, 3:26:21 AM
Is the build supposed to be low on Dex and Int? I have trouble equipping items and upgrading my gems cuz my dex/int is so low :(
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Tòm wrote:


Your wand gives you more dps than apep's would. Go 5L your Mantle.

Edit: Dat formatting. How an missing /url fucks this quote up so hard.
"Temporal Chains multiplies the duration on the monster that you are already multiplying through duration multipliers of poison damage."
- Inception by Kripp, 2017
Last edited by Tizid#0958 on Jul 26, 2015, 5:25:30 AM
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Tizid wrote:
Bought a shitty Consuming Dark and divined it twice.



Yeh yeh tooltip dps rises a bit when I swap Fire Pen with Inc Crit Multi. Still not liking it though.

There are actually some mobs including bosses that are resistant to chaos. And I don't like that I can do shit against it. With Flammability and Fire Pen I can penetrate through 35% of a 39% lowered Resistance at gem level 20.

In addition the applied Poison DoT is half the damage of Ignite.

Plus a very good rare wand + Fire Pen gem will probably still out-dps The Consuming Dark + Inc Crit Multi gem even in tooltip.

I can see its potential for builds who have massive problems with reflect e.g. crit Flameblast or Discharge. At least we do not have such problems.

Do I miss any considerable advantages related to Flame Totem? Please tell me. Otherwise there is a well rolled dagger for trade...


It's not as good as a high end rare but it does have advantages. I use a rare wand but vs atziri consuming dark allows bypassing the ES. My wand gives me about 1750 more dps than consuming dark with fire pen swapped out. Other than Atziri though, fire damage most definitely rips through enemies better.

Got two new upgrades yesterday! Big DPS improvements! Also got lucky on the craft rolls.

Last edited by damelon#0632 on Jul 26, 2015, 7:42:24 AM
I am having a bit of trouble moving forward because I am to squishy. This is my gear:



https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMAAuMEBwSzBUIHpQthDjwQWBDMES0UcRkuGjgaPh0UHwInLyftKS4snDI0MtE2xTrYPC1BlkShRUdG10myTq5XDVjlWfNaK15dXz9j_WaeaPJxhXIPeuZ7IHyDfLiCB4IQgpuDX4PMg_OHZY5kkFWaO6IAo_KnlK4Sr2yvt7E2tz7AZsMTxPbGrtD10f3SIdWm2L3ZYdl820_fsN-_4MPhc-vu7DjtPPAf8azyQfem-JP60v4K_oc=

What should my focus be atm?
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Fuzzynut wrote:
I am having a bit of trouble moving forward because I am to squishy. This is my gear:



https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMAAuMEBwSzBUIHpQthDjwQWBDMES0UcRkuGjgaPh0UHwInLyftKS4snDI0MtE2xTrYPC1BlkShRUdG10myTq5XDVjlWfNaK15dXz9j_WaeaPJxhXIPeuZ7IHyDfLiCB4IQgpuDX4PMg_OHZY5kkFWaO6IAo_KnlK4Sr2yvt7E2tz7AZsMTxPbGrtD10f3SIdWm2L3ZYdl820_fsN-_4MPhc-vu7DjtPPAf8azyQfem-JP60v4K_oc=

What should my focus be atm?


Obvious nodes based on your tree
Purity of Flesh nodes (the primary 2)
Heart of the Warrior (the first two)

Lioneye's Remorse (Your shield is horrible defensively) which you can get for 4-5C for a great one. Just switch to basically any other shield hehe. higher block chance, more armor. You are better off dual wielding than using that shield.

Your rings have no life between them. That's much more important than if they are crit chance. You always want to get your life/resists in order and then improve to the final gearset, like crit.

Your boots have good armor and life, but no movement speed (or resists). With totems, placing and getting out of the way is very important defensively.

Don't use ES hybrid gear. This isn't an ES build (Yes there is mantle, but there are no ES Bonus nodes in this build so it is wasted) Considering you have +armor nodes, you want to have as much armor as possible, so look for armor only gear, or at least armor/eva gear.

Replace your gloves. Your helm isn't bad but you can double that armor there too.

None of your armor has quality, which will up the primary defensive abilities on each piece.

I wouldn't use a sub 25% doryani's. It may have been cheap, but you are sacrificing life and/or armor on a heavy/leather belt for it. Again, I wouldn't change to offensive gear until your defences are in order. I'd either get a better Doryani's or find a good rare belt instead.

Your mantle is also a really low roll. In fact, it is the lowest fire damage roll you can get. I wouldn't even try to link that. You need to replace that too to make it worthwhile. (in a non-es build) Since you are only using a 3Link there, you would be much better off with an armor/life/resist chest and a +2 fire wand/sceptre unti you can get at least a 30% fire 4L+ Mantle.
Last edited by damelon#0632 on Jul 26, 2015, 9:50:04 AM

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