New Unique Armour: The Restless Ward

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xenogfan43 wrote:

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Spysong192 wrote:

100% charge time increase, this piece will be a corner stone in future charge builds that relay on duration

sad some people are not giving this fact the proper treatment it deserves, in a good way

what?

there is no such thing, nor will there ever be.

the only time charge duration matters is if you're inexplicably unable to re-cast enduring cry (for free, with cwdt by the way) in time to keep your charges up and that results in you taking excessive damage and dying.

that's it. at all other times, it is a quality of life issue, or has an almost immeasurably small impact on clear speed. it would be fine as a mod you could apply via a master for some small amount of currency but as a unique attribute it's quite worthless.

As i said - in the future, not right now. There just needs to be one fricking unique mechanic in the future that works with duration and all your words are void.

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Spysong192 wrote:

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xenogfan43 wrote:

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Spysong192 wrote:

100% charge time increase, this piece will be a corner stone in future charge builds that relay on duration

sad some people are not giving this fact the proper treatment it deserves, in a good way

what?

there is no such thing, nor will there ever be.

the only time charge duration matters is if you're inexplicably unable to re-cast enduring cry (for free, with cwdt by the way) in time to keep your charges up and that results in you taking excessive damage and dying.

that's it. at all other times, it is a quality of life issue, or has an almost immeasurably small impact on clear speed. it would be fine as a mod you could apply via a master for some small amount of currency but as a unique attribute it's quite worthless.

As i said - in the future, not right now. There just needs to be one fricking unique mechanic in the future that works with duration and all your words are void.

So every worthless unique today is op because there can be a mechanic in the future that allows it to be.
We judge by what mechanics we have today,and this uniques is crap.

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Spysong192 wrote:

As i said - in the future, not right now. There just needs to be one fricking unique mechanic in the future that works with duration and all your words are void.

Judge a tree by the fruit it bears, not the fruit it talks about bearing.

You know after taking a second look at this chest with stacking End charges and The way the new EC works with the regen on it with the base regen per charge on this chest THEN take ZO and the new EB...
This MIGHT be the go to chest for the new EB mechanic! Thats gonna com to quite a bit of regen with just End charges alone! Then your pathing End charges all around more regen... i mean this could be quite the chest to synergize with EB i think! Or make a REALLY fucking tanky ES/Life hybrid with ZO and no EB!

Then we have RF... This chest could make the point investment of RF a little less taxing as well!
100+ more life regen could mean saving quite a few points to maintain RF! Or this could even mean a buff to RF burn since that extra regen would help cover the ES added to the burn as well!

I still stand by my previous downside i dont like about the chest... The lvl 71 Req seens a little too much! I would like to see lvl 60-62 TOPS! Seems like it wouldnt hurt this chest one bit to be even lower possibly! But the more i look at it the more ideas that come to mind with regards to this chest!

Duration on PCs normally isnt an issue but with End and Frenzy charges you can never have enough duration on those so! I think this chest will see quite a bit of use for some builds in particular that stack these type charges! even possibly PCs if you rely solely on AM cursing to keep them up and that frees up the PCOC gem in a link for something more useful!

Like i said i only see one issue and thats the lvl req! Looks like a solid Chest that will go well with some of the new mechanics coming with Act 4! I like it ill definitely be putting this chest to use! My RF Incenerator is already rekt and everything on him will be getting swapped out but this might be what i go with on my RF build!
Im already stock pileing Mats to 6L soon as i can get my hands on this baby! \m/

Please lower that lvl req though... i mean theres some people out there that will struggle to even lvl into the chest to put it to use as is! And even once you can equip it its nothing game breaking at lvl 71 anyway so i think lowering it Atleast 10 lvls would be alot better! just my opinion!

Whoever created this chest must be kinda like me... likes to stack charges but hates having to constantly maintain them!

So around 6% MS and 80 life per second if you are taking all charges from the passive tree? And low hp? I don't think anybody is going to use it. :/

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Vaagur wrote:

So around 6% MS and 80 life per second if you are taking all charges from the passive tree? And low hp? I don't think anybody is going to use it. :/

I think your forgetting the bandit +1 charge then you have corruptions... you get 7-9 End charges going then it has decent ES on the chest and it atleast HAS Life to scale with your tree!
Also you have to consider the regen you are getting from End charges alone now because EC charges now give regen so this flat regen will also stack with that flat regen!

IDK maybe i just see some potential! You also gotta consider your talking like 100+ regen isnt much when that is quite a bit of regen and its flat regen too stacking that with regen on the tree then take EB+ZO your gonna end up with some really nice regen on your ES without even having to take any regen nodes then take a couple regen nodes on top of that as well...

And on RF that 100+ Regen can translate to being able to afford to drop some regen nodes on the tree and still sustain RF while putting those saved points elsewhere! Some of the most shitty point you invest in RF is making your way down to duelist so if i could afford to not even have to go down there at all because i made the regen up with this chest then yeah that makes it pretty damn worth it right there!
Or just go with the same RF tree and this chest with End charges up will give you some really nice regen on top of RF running which results in being even more tanky! Theres so many things to consider with a new Unique like this!

IDK i think it does have quite a bit of potential! Im not saying there wont be investment but then again what decent build doesnt have some lvl of investment?
again this is all speculation and would need to be tested but theres also only one way to find out!

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Demonoz wrote:

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Vaagur wrote:

So around 6% MS and 80 life per second if you are taking all charges from the passive tree? And low hp? I don't think anybody is going to use it. :/

I think your forgetting the bandit +1 charge then you have corruptions... you get 7-9 End charges going then it has decent ES on the chest and it atleast HAS Life to scale with your tree!
Also you have to consider the regen you are getting from End charges alone now because EC charges now give regen so this flat regen will also stack with that flat regen!

IDK maybe i just see some potential! You also gotta consider your talking like 100+ regen isnt much when that is quite a bit of regen and its flat regen too stacking that with regen on the tree then take EB+ZO your gonna end up with some really nice regen on your ES without even having to take any regen nodes then take a couple regen nodes on top of that as well...

And on RF that 100+ Regen can translate to being able to afford to drop some regen nodes on the tree and still sustain RF while putting those saved points elsewhere! Some of the most shitty point you invest in RF is making your way down to duelist so if i could afford to not even have to go down there at all because i made the regen up with this chest then yeah that makes it pretty damn worth it right there!
Or just go with the same RF tree and this chest with End charges up will give you some really nice regen on top of RF running which results in being even more tanky! Theres so many things to consider with a new Unique like this!

IDK i think it does have quite a bit of potential! Im not saying there wont be investment but then again what decent build doesnt have some lvl of investment?
again this is all speculation and would need to be tested but theres also only one way to find out!

Dude,seriously,why are you supporting the chest? What do you see in it? You can play end game maps with any chest,even a tabula. This thing is less powerfull and cost efficient as a 6link to me than a tabula. The reasoning behind end game uniques is to make a build powerfull. Allowing you to cast enduring cry half the times you would normaly is not powerfull. A small life regen that i could get otherwise and running a rare chest is not powerfull. RF? good luck when your charges end up and still clearing map. I could not depend on this chest for my survival in no way.

Aaand, another one! That maybe can be used as a skin transfer if looks good.
Nothing more.

I feel kinda sorry for the guys designing uniques, as for some reason they are not allowed to make new Shavrone or even Queen of the Forest.
I just don't like that approach.

Life per endurance charge would have been a nice addition to this chest.

i love this game