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HikaruYami wrote:

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BoondockSaint wrote:

So i culled dom, half items that droped were blue......with 380 IIR

i was like.... WTF

didnt even picked those

... you say that as if you usually pick up blues? I can safely say that I haven't picked up a blue on purpose that (a) wasn't a map, (b) wasn't a 6s, and (c) wasn't a tri-link-color item for a chromatic, since day 4 of me playing this game.

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BoondockSaint wrote:

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HikaruYami wrote:

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BoondockSaint wrote:

So i culled dom, half items that droped were blue......with 380 IIR

i was like.... WTF

didnt even picked those

... you say that as if you usually pick up blues? I can safely say that I haven't picked up a blue on purpose that (a) wasn't a map, (b) wasn't a 6s, and (c) wasn't a tri-link-color item for a chromatic, since day 4 of me playing this game.

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no, that wasnt what i was saying

i am saying that in order to get all rare items from dominus, you need 500 IIR as solo player since BL league started

i am saying that in order to get 500 IIR as solo player you need every piece of gear on you be BiS MF unique items

i am saying that previous league this wasnt the case, with 380 IIR you would get all items as rare as solo player

i am saying that this mf sealing is raising up all the time, i presume that greed embrace was calculated as a must item for every mf-er for BL and Torment leagues, when this sealing in IIR was raised

i am saying that every thing in this game you can do (mf farming, masters, xp gain in maps, everything else) is 10 times better, safe and efficient done in party then solo play

so when i want to farm dom i need to wait for some mf culler with 500 IIR and 100 IIQ to join his public party, because if you tried that and solo farming, you know how it feels....party feels like loot pinata, solo feels like you are gimping yourself so much, same goes for maps

bad design is what i am saying

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AndCub wrote:

buddy, you have no idea what you're talking about. Running solo will always net you more Items than a group. Magic find is a group thing to compensate for that fact. Why is that you ask? Well every member of your group adds 50% quantity (and 50% monsterlife). that means at 2 members you get 75% of the items you get solo, at 3 member 66.6%, at 4 62.5% at 5 members 60% and at 6 members you get a whopping 58~% of what you get solo.

Please stop crying about nothing.
You just got bad luck this league, game design has NOTHING to do with it.

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BoondockSaint wrote:

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AndCub wrote:

buddy, you have no idea what you're talking about. Running solo will always net you more Items than a group. Magic find is a group thing to compensate for that fact. Why is that you ask? Well every member of your group adds 50% quantity (and 50% monsterlife). that means at 2 members you get 75% of the items you get solo, at 3 member 66.6%, at 4 62.5% at 5 members 60% and at 6 members you get a whopping 58~% of what you get solo.

Please stop crying about nothing.
You just got bad luck this league, game design has NOTHING to do with it.

buddy, huh?

well atleast you didnt call me "kid", or said that i am doing something wrong, which is the usual line



You dont get 50 IIQ per player in party anymore, you get 10 IIQ and 40 IIR per player

When you cull dom as solo player with lets say 350 IIR you will get half items blue and half rare, lets say 15-18 rares on average, aprox number

When you do dom with good culler and with good runners, you will kil dom 20+ times in 1 hour minimum. That culler will kill dom with 700+ IIR and 130 IIQ. I have been farming dom whole BL league, and with good party and good culler, every kill your party will get 2-4 uniques, sometimes even more. It wasnt rare situation that i get 2-3 uniques from just 1 kill.

In that farming time in BL league i got Shav, 5-6 coils, 2-3 CoD, 2 Marohi, drilneck, 3-4 bellys, 10+ carcass, QoTF and literally shit ton of good unique and rare items. Also i saw like 2-3 more shavs drop, kaom, mjolner and God knows how many CoD and other good uniqes.

So no, i am not crying about drop rates, i am just pointing how much party play is better and how discouraging is solo play.

solo you cant come even close to that number, killed dom solo not as many times as in party, but i didnt get not even 10% of that when i played in good party.

and 50% more monster life per player is actually big buff for party play also.

Also with culler geared to the teeth you can double dip if you have enough stash tabs, meaning after dom kill, you pick up rares, run and leave them in stash, go back in same portal and fill another full stash of rares. This way you can farm insane amount of alts per hour, even without double dip you cant farm more alts solo, but with double diping amount of alts per hour is just insane.

Also Chaos recipe, in party you kill dom many many times more per hour, so you get a lot more rings/amulets.




Dont you think there is a reason why people join public parties with good cullers and good runners?