[2.0] 5L Uber Atziri Viable "The Zippo" Incinerate Build (1.4m Burst DPS) DEAD

good job :)
Sweet build friend, I think cheapest uber capable caster build out there. Will be even cheaper once you figure out how to do it with 3 blue
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I'm curious how you think my build might fare compared to yours. Almost 4k dps with Fire Pen instead of Added Chaos.
That and what your resists/defences are, as I struggled to get significantly overcapped + spare mana + regen for AA.

edit: I re-read. You're getting ~3x the tooltip dps I am with RF?? Just from ~15% cast speed and ~100% spell/proj damage difference??
I'm 4.7k with Atziri's flask up. *3 *4 that's 94K vs your 180k. Plus a stronger RF burn though.
Last edited by ProudLikeAGod#2209 on Mar 4, 2015, 10:02:07 AM
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ProudLikeAGod wrote:
I'm curious how you think my build might fare compared to yours. Almost 4k dps with Fire Pen instead of Added Chaos.
That and what your resists/defences are, as I struggled to get significantly overcapped + spare mana + regen for AA.

edit: I re-read. You're getting ~3x the tooltip dps I am with RF?? Just from ~15% cast speed and ~100% spell/proj damage difference??
I'm 4.7k with Atziri's flask up. *3 *4 that's 94K vs your 180k. Plus a stronger RF burn though.


I'm getting 5777 GMP, Fire pene Tooltip with Atzir's Promise. 10,355 when I turn on RF.

Incinerate builds that run full-time RF cannot reach such high DPS because all the points are used to sustain RF instead of damage.

But for mapping purposes the DPS is pretty much the same across all builds.
[2.0] 5L Uber Viable Incinerate (1.4m Burst): The Zippo: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1211719
Last edited by Skyion#6995 on Mar 4, 2015, 11:03:12 AM
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Garmon123 wrote:
Sweet build friend, I think cheapest uber capable caster build out there. Will be even cheaper once you figure out how to do it with 3 blue


Thank you, 3B link video is recorded and is on it's way!
[2.0] 5L Uber Viable Incinerate (1.4m Burst): The Zippo: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1211719
This build looks excellent!

The only thing that makes me sad is the necessity/prevalence of Lightning Coil. What other chest can compete with that when it comes to physical damage mitigation? And with Purity gems and Saffell's on top of it, why consider mitigation alternatives like Incandescent Heart?
Dreamfeather Elemental Cleave Ranger: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1087616
Last edited by Tempada#2630 on Mar 4, 2015, 11:41:27 AM
What are the advantages of this over Raiz's build? In my opinion being able to permanently run RF is a huge advantage and taking it away is a disadvantage. Having to keep it up with flasks and not having enough charges to cover constant flame blasts, or experiencing desync and snapping back into place with 50% of your HP missing for time you weren't leeching etc or warping away from trio all the time your HP is ticking down. Sustaining RF is a huge advantage and you achieve 250-300k dps while RF is sustained without having to use Atziri's promise whilst your build says you reach that DPS only when RF is activated which you toggle for boss fights?

Is it simply that the build is cheaper?
Last edited by ZarlakRC#7494 on Mar 4, 2015, 12:07:21 PM
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Skyion wrote:
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ProudLikeAGod wrote:
I'm curious how you think my build might fare compared to yours. Almost 4k dps with Fire Pen instead of Added Chaos.
That and what your resists/defences are, as I struggled to get significantly overcapped + spare mana + regen for AA.

edit: I re-read. You're getting ~3x the tooltip dps I am with RF?? Just from ~15% cast speed and ~100% spell/proj damage difference??
I'm 4.7k with Atziri's flask up. *3 *4 that's 94K vs your 180k. Plus a stronger RF burn though.


I'm getting 5777 GMP, Fire pene Tooltip with Atzir's Promise. 10,355 when I turn on RF.

Incinerate builds that run full-time RF cannot reach such high DPS because all the points are used to sustain RF instead of damage.

But for mapping purposes the DPS is pretty much the same across all builds.
I'm just surprised that ~30% extra (mostly Spell) damage and ~40% extra cast speed is double the damage, rather than suffering from worse diminished returns. There doesn't seem to be anything else fundamentally different about how we're doing damage unless I've missed something.
If only I could easily know the dps from my RF. It should be at least 30k with those support gems.

And Vaal Molten Shell is excellent against fast attacking/casting bosses, but I guess you've traded away the sockets for such options.

How about swapping AA for Vaal Grace/Haste vs Atziri, as the single hit damage she's doing makes AA useless, right?
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ProudLikeAGod wrote:

How about swapping AA for Vaal Grace/Haste vs Atziri, as the single hit damage she's doing makes AA useless, right?


Atziri fight is a long battle, goign through the trouble of charging vaal haste is quite pointless unless you desperately need the dps.
[2.0] 5L Uber Viable Incinerate (1.4m Burst): The Zippo: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1211719
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ZarlakRC wrote:
What are the advantages of this over Raiz's build? In my opinion being able to permanently run RF is a huge advantage and taking it away is a disadvantage. Having to keep it up with flasks and not having enough charges to cover constant flame blasts, or experiencing desync and snapping back into place with 50% of your HP missing for time you weren't leeching etc or warping away from trio all the time your HP is ticking down. Sustaining RF is a huge advantage and you achieve 250-300k dps while RF is sustained without having to use Atziri's promise whilst your build says you reach that DPS only when RF is activated which you toggle for boss fights?

Is it simply that the build is cheaper?


Do you understand that sustaining RF is not free? The nodes used to do this is better put into damage. Then use RF ON TOP of those damage nodes when you need it. Alot of your misunderstanding is actually explained in the guide itself if you'd like to take some time going over it.
[2.0] 5L Uber Viable Incinerate (1.4m Burst): The Zippo: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1211719

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