[LLD & HLD] Molten shell

Molten shell needs to be balanced for both HLD & LLD, it has way too efficient damage and recast time right now.

Before saying that '' I SUCK '' and that i cant play against it, i'm playing one of the strongest HLD caster on standard and i use it myself and it needs a considerable nerf from my perspective.

HLD - Molten can get a flat 15k-30k X-Y fire damage ( not tooltip ) from just a 4L, you can pretty much 1 shot over 8k+ es or hp uppon crit and probably take down to 1/4 hp on non crit. You can also recast it without any cooldown and you're pretty much free to spam it.

Cast when damage taken got nerf so the CWDT + Molten shell does lower damage but it's really not enough to balance it and you can still 1 shot over 6k+ easily with a cwdt molten shell. Note that it triggers everytime u take damage, this making it so efficient with the spike damage.

I really suggest a good 25% less damage molten shell for HLD, as well as a cooldown of about 5 seconds would greatly helps players that has to go melee range to deliver damage.


LLD - When it comes to LLD it is pretty damaging for sure, but nowhere near HLD's level. The only issue i see with it is the amount of time you can spam it freely without any cooldown, anyone that has to come melee range will have a hard time dealing with it if they use smoke mine + molten combo. You can pretty much drain your enemy's flasks really easily if they dont have base regen. It also takes out a good 700hp on hit for sure and that is non crit, very good damage and free to spam.

I would suggest a 5 second cooldown considering the damage it does and being able to spam it doesn't make much sense for a skill that can have such high efficiency.

cooldown will never happen since that will fuck with pve

I dont see it being a problem in LLD. Yes it does a lot of damage but nowhere near a flicker cyclone or molten strike.

If it needs a nerf it should probably only apply to HLD or to higher levels of molten shell. Im not sure if GGG want to nerf higher levels damage for pve and changing the attack time for the pvp formula is global for lld and hld :/

I think it is a problem in LLD too. It does 1k+ damage on a decent geared caster plus ignites most the time. I think a PvP only cooldown would be a good solution.

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Lordsidro wrote:

LLD molten stike+phy to light.

This is also applicable to hld. I tend to use a pure elemental attack against a potential 1-shot molten shell.

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Lordsidro wrote:

LLD molten stike+phy to light.

Doesn't solve the problem for molten shell's low dmg prevention. A flicker or a WB triggers this which is a huge issue.

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bigfoot312 wrote:

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Lordsidro wrote:

LLD molten stike+phy to light.

Doesn't solve the problem for molten shell's low dmg prevention. A flicker or a WB triggers this which is a huge issue.

True. Also reactive gems also detonate molten. It's a matter of paying attention on what's potentially going to kill you. What he said there is one work around against molten.

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Lordsidro wrote:

LLD molten stike+phy to light.

Doesn't solve the problem for molten shell's low dmg prevention. A flicker or a WB triggers this which is a huge issue.

And if you've played melee you quickly realize its not much of a work-around. A caster who is able to kite with smoke mine/run/warp/leap/or arctic armor will kill you if you're unable to flicker on top of them to attack.

Thread op just earned my full respect.

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kevshien wrote:

Thread op just earned my full respect.

Being a full blown hypocrite, only now admitting what's broken after playing melee in lld? Struggling to beat known melee issues in a setting melee actually dominates? When you normally play hld caster and bs everyone with how weak it is.
Hmm..easy to do 180s and gain respect around here I see.

Traps, elemental skills + penetration, molten...hmm what's next?