How PvP Tournament Season Two Works

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Fightgarr wrote:

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TheWretch wrote:

I spent 2 years thinking I was playing an ARPG only to be told later i've been gearing for some seriously shitty and sub-par PvP all along. Where was MY warning?!

Dude, you didn't know that all this time you have been farming alterations and "shitty" low-level uniques simply for the amusement of the PVP ELITE? 420noscope etc...

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HegemonyTV wrote:

what!??!!?

I spent sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much time gearing 2 LLDers in both leagues.

This was a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE waste of time now!

where was the warning!??!!? /facepalm.

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Fightgarr wrote:

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The_Speculator wrote:

Saw the topics in this forum go up from 17 to 18 and got my hopes up, then saw PvP, lol... what's that, 4th topic created in a row or something in here regarding PvP?

While you were there, you should have read this one again.

Don't worry, act 4 will be here before you know it. In the meantime let us have our silly PvP fun.

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Mark_GGG wrote:

In Hardcore, if a character dies, they're out of the league. This doesn't only affect the character, it affects the economy, because all items that character had died with them, and as far as HC is concerned, are gone forever. It is never possible in HC for you to be using an item that belonged to a character that died, because their items were taken out with them.

In Anarchy, characters can continue when they die. While we track character deaths and could move to hardcore only characters that never died in Anarchy, they would be carrying items that do not belong in a hardcore economy, because they've traded with characters who died, and obtained items tainted by death. These characters managed not to die by directly benefiting from a non-HC economy, where far more items are easily available because they aren't constantly leaving, and would carry hundreds of death-tainted items to HC with them, should such a transfer occur.

Even if we kept death counts for every individual item in the league, and didn't transfer those, we'd have characters arriving in hardcore without most of their gear, losing HC gems that were socketed in non-HC items, and fundamentally, we're still putting characters in HC who didn't avoid dying in hardcore.

Not dying in a softcore league and not dying in a hardcore league are not the same, because the softcore league has far more easily available items in the economy, due to them not leaving when characters with them die. It's easier to gear up.
A character who only "didn't die" in Anarchy did not achieve the same as a character who didn't die in HC. They probably used items that wouldn't exist in a hardcore economy. They almost certainly benefited from the larger numbers of items in the economy. If they ever played in parties with characters that died, then they made progress they could not have made in HC.

A character who didn't die in Anarchy, or any other softcore league, is not equivalent to one who doesn't die in hardcore. As such, moving characters from such leagues to hardcore would not be reasonable.

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Ashen_Shugar_IV wrote:

Merging HC and SC is a big mistake.

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Ashen_Shugar_IV wrote:

Let's turn that "15" into 0. Literally no point trying to gear a PvP char in an HC environment if cross-league events become standard.