Any Gay Players?

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Moonlight33 wrote:

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diebymee wrote:

I understand that feeling imcomfortable because a proportion of the rest of the society is saying that you are not normal can make people search for people from the same group. I can just agree with you on this point. But, doing that, assuming, (correct me if Im wrong) they fight, as I said, to be considered as normal persons (which they obv. are), it's not the best way to help that, because they choose, to exclude themself from the rest of the society by doing such.

I did not intend to offend you, but with your answer to my post you answered your own question: If you want to be considered as normal, but in a certain way are different to the main part of society, you got only two choices: Either you hide the part of yourself, that makes you different,taking the risk that your socalled friends leave you exactly the moment they find out about your real personality...

Or: You tell everybody in wich way you are different and show people that you are as normal human as they are.(beside that little difference, that does not harm anybody) This is the way to educate people and overcome prejudice. And it is a way to prevent harm being done to you.

I understand Op fully, cause I made also experience that in the gamers world you find a lot of assholes, same as in real life and you better watch out with whom you play if you don´t want to end up as a stalked gamer. So his question for a peer group is fully legit.

Thats just my 2 cents to this subject.

I agree with you, and I know that you didn't want to offend me, and I didn't get offended, just wanted to tell you that on that specific point you were wrong.
The small, little difference, is that as we are not in the real life, but as we are in the gaming world, no one is supposed to know what you are doing during your private moments. In the real life, you have no choice, because it's pretty hard to hide the fact that you are gay, and actually, you shouldn't even have to hide it. But to go back on the gaming subject, the things is, I know that there are a lot of assholes in the gaming world, but if you ever get close enough to another gamer to tell him that you are gay, you shouldn't have to hide, because if you become that close to another gamer (or a group of gamers), it's because you know that they correspond to you. You do actually choose you friends, in the gaming, like in the real life. And if for some reason, you finally find out that you were wrong and that they are stupid, they just move on. Would be the same if you weren't gay, and still find out that they are stupid.

It is for me, legitimate, to look for other gay ppl, from the same community in real life, but in gaming, it's so easy to ignore someone, that beeing gay, and beeing "scared" or whatever the correct word is, shouldn't stop any gay person to try to find hetero friends.
So that's why, I think, that they should give everybody the chance to be their friend, regardless their sexual orientation, because, on the net, it makes absolutely no difference, and has no impact on no one. (especially on the gay person).

So to conclude, it is IMHO, not necessary to look for people with the same sexual orientation on a gaming forum, because this is not what you're going to share with them.

Fuck offensive.

Queer here. Probably going to jump out of this thread for a bit though, diebymee blaming queer people for society excluding them is too depressing for me to want to argue against right now.

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diebymee wrote:

The gay community is absolutely right to be complaining about this, but, what I don't understand (maybe because it's not working the same way in your country), by making a thread like this, YOU deliberately create a difference between gay people, and heterosexual people.

People meet in interest groups all the time. Some do it to find people to enjoy their leisure activities with, making music, playing chess, going on bicycle tours, whatever. Others do it simply to find like-minded people to talk to, socialize with, and share experiences, e.g., pregnancy meetup groups, people interested in talking about politics, meetings for people into beekeeping, you name it.

Nobody would argue (I hope) that there shouldn't be any specialized beekeeping groups because they promote social exclusion of beekeepers. It shouldn't be any different for people wanting to socialize with others of a similar sexual orientation.

The difference is not created by seeking out like-minded people. The difference is only in (the other) people's heads.

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Vakirauta wrote:

But if the same thread was made to group up with black people, the outcome of the thread would be entirely different.

We have tons of national threads in the off topic section, I don't see why that would be much different.

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Xendran wrote:

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Vakirauta wrote:

But if the same thread was made to group up with black people, the outcome of the thread would be entirely different.

We have tons of national threads in the off topic section, I don't see why that would be much different.

It is nice to speak your native language. It isn't so nice to make a threat for white people :p

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Alfabetica wrote:

Queer here. Probably going to jump out of this thread for a bit though, diebymee blaming queer people for society excluding them is too depressing for me to want to argue against right now.

Sorry about that, but that wasn't my intention, I just wanted to point out something I wasn't really understanding and that was imho contradictory.

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Amaroid wrote:

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diebymee wrote:

The gay community is absolutely right to be complaining about this, but, what I don't understand (maybe because it's not working the same way in your country), by making a thread like this, YOU deliberately create a difference between gay people, and heterosexual people.

People meet in interest groups all the time. Some do it to find people to enjoy their leisure activities with, making music, playing chess, going on bicycle tours, whatever. Others do it simply to find like-minded people to talk to, socialize with, and share experiences, e.g., pregnancy meetup groups, people interested in talking about politics, meetings for people into beekeeping, you name it.

Nobody would argue (I hope) that there shouldn't be any specialized beekeeping groups because they promote social exclusion of beekeepers. It shouldn't be any different for people wanting to socialize with others of a similar sexual orientation.

The difference is not created by seeking out like-minded people. The difference is only in (the other) people's heads.

Agreed, but once again, when someone is fighting for something,(stop beeing discriminated because they are gay), the best way to change stupid people mind (Im here talkin about some hetero) is not to go in some kind of excessive communitarianism, but by showing them the way to go. But yea, I guess some people just want to stay toghether and don't wanna meet people from others communities, I can understand.

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diebymee wrote:

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Alfabetica wrote:

Queer here. Probably going to jump out of this thread for a bit though, diebymee blaming queer people for society excluding them is too depressing for me to want to argue against right now.

Sorry about that, but that wasn't my intention, I just wanted to point out something I wasn't really understanding and that was imho contradictory.

Eh, don't worry dude. If nothing else it seems I stuck around anyway

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diebymee wrote:

Agreed, but once again, when someone is fighting for something,(stop beeing discriminated because they are gay), the best way to change stupid people mind (Im here talkin about some hetero) is not to go in some kind of excessive communitarianism, but by showing them the way to go. But yea, I guess some people just want to stay toghether and don't wanna meet people from others communities, I can understand.

You can fight against dickheads and have queer communities at the same time. You don't have to spend every moment of your time doing the former.

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