Can you get higher chaos damage

2x Apep's Rage + stack crazy crit chance/multiplier and cast speed for DPS, because big singular chaos hits mean nothing unlike elemental damage which cause status ailments.

Maybe combine this with EK and double Ming's Heart if you really wanted to.

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But that's not how conversion works in this game at all.

If you have 50% phys->chaos conversion and normally do 10 physical damage, you do 5phys/5chaos after.
If you then take 100% increased physical damage, you do 10phys/10chaos after.
Then you use a Ming's Heart (gain 20% phys->chaos), you do 10phys/12chaos after.

Please read up on damage conversion/added as on the wiki.

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If you're going for "highest possible chaos hit" then the answer is probably Poison Arrow Voltaxic.
If you're going for "highest possible chaos dps", then it's still probably Voltaxic, or maybe 2x apep's +chaos crit incinerate with an Infernal Mantle.
If you're going for "highest possible chaos dot", then it's crit dagger Adder's Touch Viper Strike with MPD, MPDoFL, etc.

Your missing the point I said nothing about mechanics of conversion making his damage "less", I said specifically building multiple damage sources to covert is worse off then a single source for gearing/skill tree reasons. My suggestion for him was to only convert physical as oppose to ice/fire/physical. Which then he doesn't need the quiver/gloves/armor and bow which are not good dps items to boost his total chaos damage more.

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+ wrath and herald of thunder is pretty damn good chaos damage.

the gem isnt really usefull imho only for +minimum damage because chaos damage isnt scaled as good as lightning damage (from your tree. because you stack increased ele/lightning damage)

im still testing things out with this build but with level 18 gems (level 22 auras planned) my chaos damage is at 200 - 3900 with atziri's. in a 5L.

ill switch to lifeleech when i go lowlife (can use clarity on hp) and add a 6th damage gem at 6L. prolly chaos damage with %. ill see.



also: poison arrow voltaxic is shit. your physical voltaxic damage is super low and poisn arrow scales with level. so the +5 ring or a +3 bow should result in way better cleartimes.

you can reach more than 20k dps with poison arrow, just saying. ( saying for OP, not for above post )..

This is one of the best build I ever play, very powerfull and without almost any drawback.

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Malone wrote:

you can reach more than 20k dps with poison arrow, just saying. ( saying for OP, not for above post )..

This is one of the best build I ever play, very powerfull and without almost any drawback.

Link to a thread? I'm thinking +3 bow, with a corrupted lvl 4 empower, which gives a level 27 poison arrow, 1,964.6 dps. 150% chaos/damage over time nodes, 20% area damage nodes, 70% from a level 21 conc effect. That's 9,017 dps. Anything else scale it I'm missing?

iHaku, you're missing and imo thunderfists aren't great unless you're using them for a second 5L attack. Have you tried the physical to lightning gem? At 20/20 it's adding something like 80 lighting damage, could be your best 6L

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RagnarokChu wrote:

Your missing the point I said nothing about mechanics of conversion making his damage "less", I said specifically building multiple damage sources to covert is worse off then a single source for gearing/skill tree reasons. My suggestion for him was to only convert physical as oppose to ice/fire/physical. Which then he doesn't need the quiver/gloves/armor and bow which are not good dps items to boost his total chaos damage more.

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One of us is missing something about how my build is working, it may be me. 100% of my physical damage is being converted. 25% to chaos, 50% to fire, 25% to cold. 100% of the cold is converted to fire using the pyre ring, that includes the hatred aura. All that fire damage + added fire dmg gem + HoA aura then has 25% of it converted to chaos from chest.

So scaling physical, spell damage, cast speed, or crit will effect all of my damage sources equally. Chaos damage nodes from the tree may not be worth while since they only effect 43% of the initial damage, but they also effect the added chaos gem, still probably not worth it.

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nikkofromchico wrote:

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Malone wrote:

you can reach more than 20k dps with poison arrow, just saying. ( saying for OP, not for above post )..

This is one of the best build I ever play, very powerfull and without almost any drawback.

Link to a thread? I'm thinking +3 bow, with a corrupted lvl 4 empower, which gives a level 27 poison arrow, 1,964.6 dps. 150% chaos/damage over time nodes, 20% area damage nodes, 70% from a level 21 conc effect. That's 9,017 dps. Anything else scale it I'm missing?

+3 bow , +4 empower, 21 lvl poison arrow => lvl 28 poison arrow
100 % piercing with drillneck => +100 % projectile damage
all the projectile damage / chaos damage from the skill tree
area damage
+ slower projectile => even more projectile damage
Conc effet x 1.69
etc ...

I was playing around with scaling Chaos Damage myself last night.

I was doing firestorm + added chaos and infernal mantle. I was also using Pain Attunement and the Broken Crown to scale it further (in addition to all the +chaos% in the skill tree).

When using Atziri's flask I was doing about half my firestorm damage as chaos.

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Haku, you're missing wake of destruction

and imo thunderfists aren't great unless you're using them for a second 5L attack. Have you tried the physical to lightning gem? At 20/20 it's adding something like 80 lighting damage, could be your best 6L

no im not. thunderfists are necesarry because of the 100% increased shock duration.
its pretty important to consistantly shock everything for long enough (and to guarantee that shocks dont fall under the min mark)
physical to lightning isnt good because i have nearly no physical damage.
its like 80 per shot or something.

i also cant go wake because i will go lowlife at some point (when i have shavs) and need the lioneyes paws then.
they are absolutly necesarry at that point because they give a high amound of str and dex both of which are vital to the build. (i get almost zero str/dex from tree)

also: wake grant 0 movespeed. thats a problem for me :P

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DirkAustin wrote:

What, no quicksilver flask?^^

not even close enought. you like walking like a snail?

btw i shock myself for 50 seconds whenever i hit anything :P
50 seconds is shocktime cap. probably for every status ailment