Trigger Gems Balanced or not?

Some builds can use all 3 trigger gems at once so effectively they dont have to attack their enemy to kill.

I dont see too much of a problem with trigger gems when fighting against 2hander or sword/shield but when I encounter facebreaker even with 2.5k cyclone and smashing all my pots I kill myself before they even hit me with 1 of their manual attacks.

How does everyone feel about trigger gems? Explain your experience fighting with them or against them and reasons they should be balanced differently or stay the same.

I feel like they're really unbalanced specifically with face breakers. I'm not sure why they're so much more OP with face breakers vs a 2 hander or solid 1 hander, but I think it has to do with the attack speed. With three gems the counter attack speed is significantly higher than a facebreaker can do manually. Their counter dps is likely higher than their regular skill dps.

Edit: Against someone with strong counter gems, I take off multistrike and use heavy strike. It tends to do the trick.

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aren't you tired of getting 1shot by FB+Counters in FFA? btw all counters linked block pen or none is enough good along with cyclone to kill 90% of the builds :)

I feel like face breakers need those oneshot capabilities though. Sure they are op in blitz and ffa but they absolutely suck in swiss or any match ups that goes for more than a round. They just won't be able to connect any of their hits. I don't think facebreakers will ever win any of the more serious game types like swiss.

you need to spend some points in defense // spell block defense

CWS + Molten Shell + Fire Pen will sure kills you easily because of your high burst of physical damage and stunning vs Immortal Call or block and the triggered molten shell

There are already 2-3 threads about it. Yes trigger gems are not balanced at all, not only for fb but in general for any build that can use all 3 of them effectively. Suggestions about fixing them are already made here http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1156764

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Oats_PT wrote:

I feel like face breakers need those oneshot capabilities though.

Think before posting, it might hurt a bit, but the rest dont get to see such ridiculous comments.

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alshabibi7 wrote:

you need to spend some points in defense // spell block defense

CWS + Molten Shell + Fire Pen will sure kills you easily because of your high burst of physical damage and stunning vs Immortal Call or block and the triggered molten shell

Don't post blindly, cws isn't a problem in lld for obvious reasons

Who mentioned LLD in the topic? :)

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alshabibi7 wrote:

Spoiler

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

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alshabibi7 wrote:

you need to spend some points in defense // spell block defense

CWS + Molten Shell + Fire Pen will sure kills you easily because of your high burst of physical damage and stunning vs Immortal Call or block and the triggered molten shell

Don't post blindly, cws isn't a problem in lld for obvious reasons

Who mentioned LLD in to topic?

He's talking about lld also mentioned other trigger gems than the old ones

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wild_captain wrote:

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Oats_PT wrote:

I feel like face breakers need those oneshot capabilities though.

Think before posting, it might hurt a bit, but the rest dont get to see such ridiculous comments.

I dont want to be told to think before posting by a guy who thought block chance reduction gem was flat. Did it hurt when you found out block chance reduction was not flat? :)