iboardthesword's view on LLD currently

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lapiz wrote:

My short wall of text about LLD.

As background I willl just say that I’ve played all types of characters with close to best-in-slot gear. Have also dueled extensively against the guys who have the best stuff in LLD standard at the moment. Won some swiss tournies too with the more serious characters. So I guess my point of view will be the actual competitive side of LLD (if you can call a group of 20 or so one).

Currently the main issues that I feel needs to be addressed:

Amount of players: There are way too few people interested in pvp at the moment. Im guessing the main cause for this is mostly because of the huuuuuge gap in gear strength. Something has to be done but I’m not exactly sure what because concept-wise its extremely hard to change anything drastically. If I were the one in charge I would probably implement a system where a player could choose his gear from a respectable pool of items and gems when he or she is creating a character. All the gems and items wouldn’t be tradable in any way of course. The strength of the items would have to be at least 75% of bis gear strength. This way people who wanted to pvp could do so with gear that is actually adequate.


Interface, Tournaments, etc: These are the ones that are easy to fix easy to spot. I will probably forget a lot of these problems in this list but here goes the more important ones.

Let both players see who and which class joined the area. Please.

My personal opinion is that it would be extremely great to have a 30s prep time every time you enter a duel in swiss or normal ladder. During this prep time you would be allowed to change pots and gear. The thing is LLD is all about potions and a few gear swaps. This prep time would be beneficial to both participants because they could both fight with their best setups against one another. Currently people are forced to duel with whatever useless pots when faced with an unordinary matchup.

We need more tournaments. The amount of tournaments is nonexistent at the moment.


Balance issues: This is a tough one. I would like to remind Im talking about only the highest level of LLD with close to perfect gear. I would also like to remind there aren’t many people who play LLD at this level. There’s probably a max of 50 people who have gear like this on standard and it’s a sad thing more people cant take part in this interesting and difficult side of poe pvp.

During the last month the builds have developed a lot I would say. People have finally realized cyclone is the ultimate melee vs melee skill and bow characters can only beat casters. Casters have finally realized bear trap with clever construction is the most retarded thing in the game along with its main ability of causing massive desync. The balance is very volatile and its extremely hard to break this rock paper scissors game of melee>caster>bow>melee. There are exceptions of course but this is the case most of the time.

Cyclone itself is probably the only skill that requires actual changes to its numbers or mechanics. Bear trap is another skill that I would like to see changed for pvp cause currently its just a pain in the ass to play against it because of the massive desync it immediately causes. I don’t see anything else being way above average or in need of a nerf. General community might want to see at least molten strike and elemental traps nerfed too but I feel that its too early to start doing something like this. I know there are ways around those skills and setups that people just haven’t figured out yet.
In short I feel the balance is surprisingly close to where it should be.

Ahm yeah that’s mostly what I had to say.