[2.0] Kinetic Blast Wander | Physical and Elemental | HC Viable [BOTW S4E6]

Hi Gifted. I'm at roughly your dps with power/frenzy charges up, despite only having a 150 dps wand and missing attack speed on gloves. I also have slightly lower gem levels than you. I'm getting the 30% pierce node next level, letting me switch out pierce for PPAD (and a huge tooltip dps bump). Would you mind linking your tree as it stands now?

Here's mine:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4DHgQHBbUF-QYjBx4ILgj0CaAOSBGWFLAWvxmOH0Ej9iSdJpUqCypbLR8wcTB8MgE2PTpCOlg_c0M2SVFKmkt4TLNNklFHVUtVxl3yYeJh62JaYqxqQ2sXbIxs521scFJw1XNwefZ6U311f8aCHoPbidOMNo19jb-VIJUulwaaYZsmm42dqp-IogSio7IZtUi747zqwFTBScHFwfPCc8LsxKLI3M5wz3rTftQj3ajndOjW7YPw1fPq9uf67_xk_h3-ug==?accountName=jbmcarth&characterName=MiirFhunter

I'm only running 4 power charges and 3 frenzy charges at the moment, but I don't think I'd drop anything I have just for those at the moment. After Piercing Shots, my next 4 points will probably go to get the 50% crit chance and 25% crit multi from heartseeker and the wand damage and accuracy node rather than going directly for charges.

I've got a lot more accuracy from gear than you, about 1100 on my rings, gloves, and helm. I'm still only at ~91% hit chance with ice golem up. I think this might be where you're losing a lot of dps.

I'm very happy with where my dps is at now (~7500 with charges up), since I'm leveling quickly and safely, and I can see a lot of offensive and defensive upgrades left to come from gear and passives. Still to come are PPAD replacement of pierce, a 180 dps wand, attack speed on gloves, 20/20 gems, 150% more crit chance 41% wand dmg 16% attack speed and 15% accuracy from passives, and hopefully a 1500+ evade shield that might convince me to take the 3 shield nodes next to the pierce wheel.

The 7500 dps feels like 10x that when I position a boss against a wall or in a corner where I can effectively shotgun them.

Hey jbmcarth, thanks for the reply!

Here is my talent tree as it is atm

Passive skill tree build

I have 6 power charges and 3 frenzy, so I'm doing something wrong with my gear setup I think if my tooltip is only 7.8k with everything up. I'm sitting on 84% chance to hit, so maybe that's where a lot of my dps is missing?

I don't have too much trouble nuking things down with kiting to a corner or positioning them well with frost wall. I do have a bit of trouble on map bosses when I have to move a lot tho.

Level 85 and I have 7.8k dps, 4.5k life and cold/fire/lightning capped, 38% chance to evade attacks and 46% chance to dodge(unbuffed)

With where I'm currently at I feel like I've hit a wall and level 76 maps are probably the best I can manage atm. And even at 76 I still die here and there.

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zaboleqqq wrote:

If you can't shootgun, frenzy is our best friend. Of course ST + Frost Wall + FC is very interesting idea but I've have not seen any video showing how it works with this build.

Regarding DPS and Atziri - I don't think that it is good idea to farm Atziri with this build. There are some build that are much safer and better for this purpose.

Your wand looks good really good (is it 180 dps?). Most dmg came from passive nodes(fusillade) and from gems. I think that 20% quality is important on some gems like FA, GMP, KB, PCOC.


MarineMarauder
Even after Thornflesh has been removed you still have to watch for reflect :).

Yeah, it's about 180 dps. I've spammed probably about an exalt's worth of alterations, but it seems really, really difficult to roll high % phys on a wand - I haven't even seen a t1-3 mod yet.

Ah, so Atziri might be put on hold for a while then :/

The spell totem + frost wall generally spams frost walls in the direction of the enemy and pushes them away from you, and there's usually a pretty thick wall as it recasts it 3-4 times. Usually I spam at the wall and the AoE from kinetic blasts is enough to "go through" the walls, or sometimes I just immediately lightning warp to be on the same side of the wall as the boss.

Thing with frenzy is that I tend to miss a lot with it, and it really screws up my dps. Maybe I need to go for the accuracy + crit chance node cluster next to remedy this.

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zhudac wrote:

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zaboleqqq wrote:

If you can't shootgun, frenzy is our best friend. Of course ST + Frost Wall + FC is very interesting idea but I've have not seen any video showing how it works with this build.

Regarding DPS and Atziri - I don't think that it is good idea to farm Atziri with this build. There are some build that are much safer and better for this purpose.

Your wand looks good really good (is it 180 dps?). Most dmg came from passive nodes(fusillade) and from gems. I think that 20% quality is important on some gems like FA, GMP, KB, PCOC.


MarineMarauder
Even after Thornflesh has been removed you still have to watch for reflect :).

Yeah, it's about 180 dps. I've spammed probably about an exalt's worth of alterations, but it seems really, really difficult to roll high % phys on a wand - I haven't even seen a t1-3 mod yet.

Ah, so Atziri might be put on hold for a while then :/

The spell totem + frost wall generally spams frost walls in the direction of the enemy and pushes them away from you, and there's usually a pretty thick wall as it recasts it 3-4 times. Usually I spam at the wall and the AoE from kinetic blasts is enough to "go through" the walls, or sometimes I just immediately lightning warp to be on the same side of the wall as the boss.

Thing with frenzy is that I tend to miss a lot with it, and it really screws up my dps. Maybe I need to go for the accuracy + crit chance node cluster next to remedy this.

What ever side of the mob you want the frost wall, you have to cast the totem on that side. So if you want it to cast the frost wall behind them then you have to place the totem behind them.

If they are in a corner and I don't want them to move while I nuke, I place the totem in front so it pushes them into the wall/corner, normally keeps them there for a few seconds while I blow them up.

I haven't tried any maps beyond 73. I've found that the lower the map, the faster I level, and I'm primarily concerned with leveling as fast as possible (78 atm) since I've got so many nice dps upgrades awaiting me in the passive tree. My dps has more than doubled since I started doing maps, both from modest gear upgrades and from passive boosts. I'm trying to figure out which maps offer the best combination of a) tons of walls and b) relatively linear clearance without having to backtrack. I've been gone for a year until the start of this league, so I've got to learn all of this basically from scratch.

I have CWDT and frenzy in 4 links, and my other links look like this:
Inc dur - faster casting - frost wall - blood rage
HoI-Hatred-IIR
AM-Lightning warp-Ice golem

I find myself never bothering to cast AM, but I keep blood rage and ice golem up constantly. I use lightning warp almost exclusively for strongboxes. Blood rage is truly excellent; my frenzy charges are always up. The attack speed alone gives a surprisingly non-negligible dps boost, so I really look forward to getting more attack speed from my passive tree, gloves, and quality gems.

@giftednz - There are a few things you can try to get your dps up. Firstly on your tree I would recommend swapping the two 12% phys dmg nodes in the Elder Power cluster and put them towards the Heartseeker cluster in the Ranger area.

You can try swapping out Pierce for PPAD to get some more oomph in your attacks. I personally don't use Pierce because I don't find much benefit from it.

As for gear, I think the gloves could be upgraded the most. You can get double the flat phys roll as well as accuracy and a good life roll and master craft 12% ias if you need to. Your rings are not bad but see about swapping at least one for a diamond ring with flat phys and accuracy. WED % is a good roll too. Your amulet isn't bad DPS wise, but you could see about getting similar stats with resistances to cover for another slot (ring, gloves etc.).

Thanks man, so it looks like it's just going to be a juggling game with my gear for a while to optimize a few things, how is my wand? should that be upgraded right after gloves?

Also how much hit % would you guys recommend having?

I just hit lvl 80 and have 10.2k dps with charges up using very mediocre gear which I thought I'd share. My wand was 25c this morning. Everything else I bought for ~10c or less. I jeweled, fused, and chromed the armor.



I need to craft life onto one ring, and attack speed on gloves when my master hits 7.

My next big upgrade goals will be higher run speed boots, 1500+ evade shield, a bit of chaos res, and anything I have to do to juggle resists.

Here's my tree at 80:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4DHgQHBbUF-QYjBx4ILgj0CaAOSBGWFLAWvxmOH0Ej9iSdJpUqCypbLR8wcTB8MgE2PTpCOlg_c0M2SVFKmkt4TLNNklFHUuxVS1XGXfJh4mHrYlpirGpDaxdsjGznbWxwUnDVc3B59npTfXV_xoIeg9uJ04w2jX2Nv5UglS6XBpphmyabjZ2qn4iiBKKjshm1SLvjvOrAVMFJwcXB88JzwuzEosjcznDPetN-1CPdqOdU53To1u2D8NXz6vbn-u_8ZP4d_ro=?accountName=jbmcarth&characterName=MiirFhunter

I don't see myself taking the charge nodes any time soon. 2 points for 1 more charge seems a poorer investment than these next 12 points:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4DHgQHBbUF-QYjBx4ILgj0CaAOSBGWFLAWvxmOH0Ej9iSdJP0mlSoLKlstHzBxMHwyATY9OkI6WDqtP3NDNklRSppLeEyzTZJRR1LsVUtVxlm8XfJh4mHrYlpirGpDaxdsjGznbWxvhHBScNVzcHn2elN9dX_Ggh6D24nTjAuMNo19jb-VIJUulwaaYZsmm42dqp-IogSio6_rshm1SLl8u-O86sBUwUnBxcHzwnPC7MSixSjI3M5wz3rTftQj3ajnVOd06NbssO2D8NXz6vZb9uf67_xk_h3-uv8c_94=?accountName=jbmcarth&characterName=MiirFhunter

And I think with all of the offensive nodes we already have, additional defensive upgrades may be justified as I try to push lvls 90+. 3 points buys 50% chill/freeze avoidance. Or 3 points for 1 max cold res, 14 res all, 48% evade. 14 res all could let someone switch from a resist base to a crit base ring. We'll see how I feel when I get there!

Hi guys! I'm looking for some guidance for my wander. I just started mapping and my damage just dropped off so hard. My Kinetic blast is at 7.5k dps with full charges and frenzy is about 11k. Is it supposed to take 3-4 casts to kill white packs? My single target is really lacking as well. The Frostwall trick doesn't seem to be working for me.

I'm looking at ways to improve my damage.
Here's all my gear:


I'm using weapon elemental damage for now because I cannot get the right colors (I've spent probably 150+ chromatics).

Thank you in advance for the help

Pierce is a huge damage amplifier. I'm pretty happy with 40% from the tree, so you might try that. Otherwise, convert your currency to chromes and replace WED with pierce.

Your amulet is somewhat lacking on dps. You should aim for a higher crit multi, more flat dmg (~15+), and master crafted crit chance. Your two stone ring basically just has flat phys as a damage modifier; you could replace it with something with that and another stat like atk speed, 200+ accuracy, WED, whatever. Your gloves could have attack speed, that'd be a pretty big boost.