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Best time to use it is right when he comes down on his final phase, he will be a sitting duck for about 5 ish seconds. The next best time to use it is when he's doing the criss-cross beam thingy in tthe middle, thats another 3-4 seconds you have on him. These are just small damage windows, if you want the most optimal damage window you could wait out and dodge all of his patterns then he'll kinda go into this groggy state where you got about a good 8-10 seconds on him. It's up to you when you want to use it, I was going for the fast kill.
Thanks for the explanation!
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Posted bybillybob630#2960on Nov 16, 2020, 10:07:04 PM
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Great guide for someone like me that just started playing the game and knows next to nothing about the in-game systems. Just a couple of question though...
I began using Summon Phantasm Support linked to my Arc while leveling and i loved how good it synergizes with the build for offtanking and general nice dps boost from the minions. My question is, is it going to fall off in the high tier maps or is it worth keeping, or do i need Chain Support?
And my 2nd question is, i see in the Upgrade Order section of the guide, Enki mentions Kitava's Teachings, but i don't see it sloted anywhere in his Path of Building setup? The gem sounds pretty good, since there's always fresh corpses around, but is the spell damage gem better for the Jewel Socket?
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Posted byJmundi#7573on Nov 17, 2020, 1:09:05 PM
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Jmundi wrote:
Great guide for someone like me that just started playing the game and knows next to nothing about the in-game systems. Just a couple of question though...
I began using Summon Phantasm Support linked to my Arc while leveling and i loved how good it synergizes with the build for offtanking and general nice dps boost from the minions. My question is, is it going to fall off in the high tier maps or is it worth keeping, or do i need Chain Support?
And my 2nd question is, i see in the Upgrade Order section of the guide, Enki mentions Kitava's Teachings, but i don't see it sloted anywhere in his Path of Building setup? The gem sounds pretty good, since there's always fresh corpses around, but is the spell damage gem better for the Jewel Socket?
As for Summon Phantasm Support, yes the value diminishes when you go to high tier maps. And the support doesn't provide additional damage bonus to bosses. However, if you find it fun to try, definitely keep it and enjoy : )
This is the socket for that jewel, near "Elemental Overload" node. That socket works for both normal jewel as well as "cluster jewel", and "Kitava's Teachings" is one of the cluster jewels. You need 1 skill point on the socket, and another skill point to activate "Kitava's Teachings"
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Posted bybillybob630#2960on Nov 17, 2020, 2:06:13 PM
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Jmundi wrote:
Great guide for someone like me that just started playing the game and knows next to nothing about the in-game systems. Just a couple of question though...
I began using Summon Phantasm Support linked to my Arc while leveling and i loved how good it synergizes with the build for offtanking and general nice dps boost from the minions. My question is, is it going to fall off in the high tier maps or is it worth keeping, or do i need Chain Support?
And my 2nd question is, i see in the Upgrade Order section of the guide, Enki mentions Kitava's Teachings, but i don't see it sloted anywhere in his Path of Building setup? The gem sounds pretty good, since there's always fresh corpses around, but is the spell damage gem better for the Jewel Socket?
As for Summon Phantasm Support, yes the value diminishes when you go to high tier maps. And the support doesn't provide additional damage bonus to bosses. However, if you find it fun to try, definitely keep it and enjoy : )
This is the socket for that jewel, near "Elemental Overload" node. That socket works for both normal jewel as well as "cluster jewel", and "Kitava's Teachings" is one of the cluster jewels. You need 1 skill point on the socket, and another skill point to activate "Kitava's Teachings"
Thank you for the fast answer :)
I asked about Kitava's since i didn't see it inserted into his PoB setup, but i guess it's worth the 20c (gonna get it with an immunity to silence as well if the trader answer :) )
As for Summon Support, you say there's no pluses in boss fights, but how does Chain Support help? As far as i understand it just adds a couple of more chains for the AoE? Or am i missing something?
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Posted byJmundi#7573on Nov 17, 2020, 4:04:21 PM
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If anyone has time to take a look at my build and offer any suggestions on where I can go it would be appreciated. I have played a lot and have poured a lot into the build so perhaps there isn't a lot more to be done. I can do just about all the content but would ideally like a little more survivability, I had to run a ton of Heist contracts with no mods to safely get from 97 to 98 but am not really interested in doing that again to get to 99 and certainly not to get to 100. The current damage output is really good, even on single target, which I suspect is the chain support interaction with arc but I don't know the game that well so perhaps there is still a way to increase that.
I dumped all my currency into stuff to generate more currency, delirium orbs mostly, and if there isn't something substantial out there to work towards I think I will just look for slight improvements in gear and getting awakened gems corrupted to their maximum potential.
I had a Militant Faith timeless jewel drop and it would give me 4% increased elemental damage and +2 to all elemental resistances for every 10 devotion in a large circle and if I remember correctly there is 140 devotion in the circle for a 56% damage increase and 28% to all resistances. I could use it to get resistance capped and replace the boots or belt if there is something great to use there since I wouldn't need them for resistances but it knocks out Essence Extraction which seems to make it unusable unless there is some other way to replicate the flask button smashing to remove freeze.
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Posted byBuckFutter9#2398on Nov 17, 2020, 4:10:17 PM
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Jmundi wrote:
As for Summon Support, you say there's no pluses in boss fights, but how does Chain Support help? As far as i understand it just adds a couple of more chains for the AoE? Or am i missing something?
I think chain works by adding multipliers to the 15% more damage for each remaining chain from arc. I might be wrong but if arc chains 8 times alone and then you add 3 from chain support for a total of 11 but are targeting a single target then there are 10 chains remaining for 150% more damage.
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Posted byBuckFutter9#2398on Nov 17, 2020, 4:35:16 PM
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Jmundi wrote:
As for Summon Support, you say there's no pluses in boss fights, but how does Chain Support help? As far as i understand it just adds a couple of more chains for the AoE? Or am i missing something?
I think chain works by adding multipliers to the 15% more damage for each remaining chain from arc. I might be wrong but if arc chains 8 times alone and then you add 3 from chain support for a total of 11 but are targeting a single target then there are 10 chains remaining for 150% more damage.
Yeah, for Arc skill, the more chains that are not consumed yet, the more single target damage.
Also to add that: Chains support also has a 150% mana cost multiplier, which is larger than summon support (120% mana cost multiplier). That helps damage, because Archmage Support boosts damage based on mana cost.
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Posted bybillybob630#2960on Nov 17, 2020, 5:10:46 PM
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If anyone has time to take a look at my build and offer any suggestions on where I can go it would be appreciated. I have played a lot and have poured a lot into the build so perhaps there isn't a lot more to be done. I can do just about all the content but would ideally like a little more survivability, I had to run a ton of Heist contracts with no mods to safely get from 97 to 98 but am not really interested in doing that again to get to 99 and certainly not to get to 100. The current damage output is really good, even on single target, which I suspect is the chain support interaction with arc but I don't know the game that well so perhaps there is still a way to increase that.
I dumped all my currency into stuff to generate more currency, delirium orbs mostly, and if there isn't something substantial out there to work towards I think I will just look for slight improvements in gear and getting awakened gems corrupted to their maximum potential.
I had a Militant Faith timeless jewel drop and it would give me 4% increased elemental damage and +2 to all elemental resistances for every 10 devotion in a large circle and if I remember correctly there is 140 devotion in the circle for a 56% damage increase and 28% to all resistances. I could use it to get resistance capped and replace the boots or belt if there is something great to use there since I wouldn't need them for resistances but it knocks out Essence Extraction which seems to make it unusable unless there is some other way to replicate the flask button smashing to remove freeze.
My lv94 character is not a strong one compared to many people in this forum, but I tried to min-max it with alternative quality skill gems under budget. I think those are cheap & direct upgrades that you may consider.
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Posted bybillybob630#2960on Nov 17, 2020, 5:18:35 PM
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My lv94 character is not a strong one compared to many people in this forum, but I tried to min-max it with alternative quality skill gems under budget. I think those are cheap & direct upgrades that you may consider.
I had not considered those, if I look at your build did you already do the research and are the variants which you have the ones I should obtain?
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Posted byBuckFutter9#2398on Nov 17, 2020, 5:27:33 PM
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I had not considered those, if I look at your build did you already do the research and are the variants which you have the ones I should obtain?
Most gems without awaken version are best for this build. Enki also mentioned the alternative quality choices in gem section in the guide.
You can use this website for comparison: http://www.vhpg.com/poe-alternate-quality-gems/
I'm still missing Divergent Tempest Shield, that will boost 1% block chance, which boosts mana regen 1% based on "Mystic Bulwark" passive. However that is too expensive for me for now so didn't bother with it.
As for Arcane Cloak, I didn't choose alternative one, while Enki picked the Divergent version. Personally I think the additional duration is more important than buff effect.
BTW, my gem setup was learnt from WorderMostFoul. You can also check the high-end build setup there.
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Posted bybillybob630#2960on Nov 17, 2020, 5:30:40 PM
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