[2.2 WIP] Grocery's 400k+ DPS Frenzy Tornado Shot Physical Bow Build!

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Grocery wrote:

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how do u handle reflect ?
or do u just skip it ?

If you have insane gear, you will have to weapon swap to an ele bow for the pack. I use one for leveling gems so it works out. So if you have a glyph mark and can't weapon swap, just skip it.

With my current gear I can shoot into a pack though as I am not using the OP gear I was months ago.

so for normal mapping u go for normal gear ?
and switch to glyph mark for atziri / uber runs ?

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tinje2 wrote:

it can use with 6L chin sol and ice shot ?

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Zoxe wrote:

hi,
iam using:
hatred, herald of ice, curse on hit, assassin mark in my helmet
cwdt, immortal call, increase duration, vaal haste in my gloves
and i have golem and blink arrow in other equ
so my boots are empty
what could i use there?

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Grocery wrote:

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Zoxe wrote:

hi,
iam using:
hatred, herald of ice, curse on hit, assassin mark in my helmet
cwdt, immortal call, increase duration, vaal haste in my gloves
and i have golem and blink arrow in other equ
so my boots are empty
what could i use there?

Immortal Call does not work with CWDT anymore, so probably want to change that.

I am still trying a multitude of things with the open sockets. I am using old school skele totem. Spell totem, summon skeles, faster casting, blind currently. This is just to distract high damage bosses like labyrinth boss, etc.

I am still testing some other options out as I did not have open sockets before!

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Grocery wrote:

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Zoxe wrote:

hi,
iam using:
hatred, herald of ice, curse on hit, assassin mark in my helmet
cwdt, immortal call, increase duration, vaal haste in my gloves
and i have golem and blink arrow in other equ
so my boots are empty
what could i use there?

Immortal Call does not work with CWDT anymore, so probably want to change that.

I am still trying a multitude of things with the open sockets. I am using old school skele totem. Spell totem, summon skeles, faster casting, blind currently. This is just to distract high damage bosses like labyrinth boss, etc.

I am still testing some other options out as I did not have open sockets before!

aint true, ofc it works

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Grocery wrote:

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Grocery wrote:

Immortal Call does not work with CWDT anymore, so probably want to change that.

I am still trying a multitude of things with the open sockets. I am using old school skele totem. Spell totem, summon skeles, faster casting, blind currently. This is just to distract high damage bosses like labyrinth boss, etc.

I am still testing some other options out as I did not have open sockets before!

aint true, ofc it works

Sorry. I meant to say that enduring cry does not work anymore. Clearly CWDT IC still works but the duration is very small. Many people are not running that setup anymore.

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cast enduring manual, cwdt L1 ic L3 > 2sec immortal to pyhsical.
i use this at uber and its still worth it, it also is a QoL feature since u'll realize if u havnt dodged an attack ;)

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Grocery wrote:

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cast enduring manual, cwdt L1 ic L3 > 2sec immortal to pyhsical.
i use this at uber and its still worth it, it also is a QoL feature since u'll realize if u havnt dodged an attack ;)

You can do that sure. I really don't like casting EC manually though.

I don't like it because A) it is simply not fun and B) you shouldn't be getting hit by phys from atziri anyways. Most her dangerous stuff is ele not phys.

Outside of Uber, you'd really only have to use it if you are playing bad, in which case you probably aren't going to manually cast EC then IC quick enough to save yourself. There may be a few other bosses where it is worthwhile.

The IC duration is tiny with EC, so again, there is a reason people are not using it much anymore. You have to time it pretty darn well without Endurance charges.

It is definitely viable, but I personally don't like it and find it very niche and nowhere near as good. I think it is very good for Uber if you know phys is coming or may be coming. Thanks for the tip.

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Grocery wrote:

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cast enduring manual, cwdt L1 ic L3 > 2sec immortal to pyhsical.
i use this at uber and its still worth it, it also is a QoL feature since u'll realize if u havnt dodged an attack ;)

You can do that sure. I really don't like casting EC manually though.

I don't like it because A) it is simply not fun and B) you shouldn't be getting hit by phys from atziri anyways. Most her dangerous stuff is ele not phys.

Outside of Uber, you'd really only have to use it if you are playing bad, in which case you probably aren't going to manually cast EC then IC quick enough to save yourself. There may be a few other bosses where it is worthwhile.

The IC duration is tiny with EC, so again, there is a reason people are not using it much anymore. You have to time it pretty darn well without Endurance charges.

It is definitely viable, but I personally don't like it and find it very niche and nowhere near as good. I think it is very good for Uber if you know phys is coming or may be coming. Thanks for the tip.

trust me u will love to have it in 2.0 uber,
i usually switch enduring for ralling cry, so u are used to use a warcry anyway.
for the atziri fight i also use ralling cry, the spear damage didnt kill me, seems like the dmg aint as much as it used to be in 2.0. u also switch in arrow dance for that fight.
but for trio its a must have, alone to run over the physical damage clouds

also the cry animation is faster than the old cast, and is super fun now ;)

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Grocery wrote:

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Grocery wrote:

You can do that sure. I really don't like casting EC manually though.

I don't like it because A) it is simply not fun and B) you shouldn't be getting hit by phys from atziri anyways. Most her dangerous stuff is ele not phys.

Outside of Uber, you'd really only have to use it if you are playing bad, in which case you probably aren't going to manually cast EC then IC quick enough to save yourself. There may be a few other bosses where it is worthwhile.

The IC duration is tiny with EC, so again, there is a reason people are not using it much anymore. You have to time it pretty darn well without Endurance charges.

It is definitely viable, but I personally don't like it and find it very niche and nowhere near as good. I think it is very good for Uber if you know phys is coming or may be coming. Thanks for the tip.

trust me u will love to have it in 2.0 uber,
i usually switch enduring for ralling cry, so u are used to use a warcry anyway.
for the atziri fight i also use ralling cry, the spear damage didnt kill me, seems like the dmg aint as much as it used to be in 2.0. u also switch in arrow dance for that fight.
but for trio its a must have, alone to run over the physical damage clouds

also the cry animation is faster than the old cast, and is super fun now ;)

Oh they reduced the cast time? Thank god! It was terrible slow. That was my main issue with it :)

Arrow dance is an absolute must, I agree. Thanks for the info. Glad GGG made it viable for certain fights!