[2.5] Tempada's Dreamfeather Lightning Flurry Raider: Acro, Alpha's/Blood Dance/QotF, 200k+ DPS

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Firnefex wrote:

Currently at around 50 in Torment I'm using Ondars's Guile and the 3 extra points are worth the investment, espacially against some bad attacks like Multi Chaos bolts from a large group of Snakes/Vaal constructs, corpse spits, Piety's GMP Ice arrows and high lvl Titty bitches (or in Poorjoy's Asylum +160% Dmg ^^).

Ondar's Guile is great against Piety, that's for sure, but it's just too situational. The trick with the snakes/constructs is to Leap Slam then take them out quickly before any other enemies in a group. The same goes for birdmen, devourers, undying alchemists... It will get easier once you can equip Queen of the Forest.

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Because Voidbearers ignore Ondar's, how you handle the Cells Boss? Are 46% Spell Dodge enough to easily bring him down?

I don't have any issues with that boss (assuming I'm not running a -max resist map), although I sometimes have to be careful around Voidbearer mobs in additional projectiles maps. Vaal Grace or a Ruby Flask can be a big help in those situations.

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(was lucky and found Tabula Rasa in the Warden ;-p, but I haven't much +Dmg on Gear, mostly +Res and 2 Elreon Rings, so I don't know if this dps is rather standard)...

Gratz on the Tabula :) It's common to find low damage on gear until late game, but I'm not sure what would be standard dps at your level.

Awesome build and very interesting, i bet its really fun having so much movespeed, i think im going to try this one out

just gotta ask, how do you deal with leech? does the char like never get hit anyway since it has big evasion, or do you swap something for life leech?

also, i think you could run a decently high level AA, since you have pretty high mana regen, and with quality it also gives extra movespeed, id run it even just for that

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VictorDoom wrote:

Awesome build and very interesting, i bet its really fun having so much movespeed, i think im going to try this one out

Thanks, Victor! I'd love your input if you do try it out. The movement speed is so sexy and the play style keeps me on my toes... I can honestly say this is the most fun build I've played in PoE.

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just gotta ask, how do you deal with leech? does the char like never get hit anyway since it has big evasion, or do you swap something for life leech?

Oh, I get hit, even with all that evasion and dodge. I used Life Leech as my 6th link for a while, but I've since dropped it completely (well, except in reflect maps when I swap it in for WED or Multistrike). I just keep a finger ready on a life potion (a Saturated Eternal Flask of Staunching is my go-to flask), and because of Herbalism on the tree, my life fills up very fast. I also use Atziri's Promise when in a bind, and Poacher's Mark helps a tiny bit, although I use that more for frenzy charges and increased flask charges than life gain on hit. This probably isn't ideal in hardcore, but it's a blast in softcore, and I've gotten up to a pretty high level, so I feel like the defenses are adequate.

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also, i think you could run a decently high level AA, since you have pretty high mana regen, and with quality it also gives extra movespeed, id run it even just for that

My mana regen isn't very high, although maybe it could be with more nodes on the tree. I only use a lvl 4 Clarity (low level since it's on Blood Magic).

Not sure why but i feel using Herald of Ice is a great clear speed boost, is it bec of the shatter AOE cold dmg from HoI?



Last night I wanted to get a 3R 2G from my 6s5L QotF. And I ended ripping 740 chromes and 140 fuses. ^^ it was fun tho., first time ripping so much.

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@ManicCompression

Do the Mobs shatter only with Frostbite on them or is it possible to freeze them without, e.g. after shock?

Do you use Cold Penetration just for the Shatter?
Because you don't have flat +Dmg on Gear, so Added Cold Damage gives more DPS and if there are Mobs with more life you need to shatter them first (takes longer) in order to let your Penetration work better.


@Tempada

What is your chance to hit?
Do you really need +200 Acc on Gloves and +350 on Ring (heavy Dex and both Feathers have 200)? What would it be without Ring and Gloves?

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ManicCompression wrote:

Not sure why but i feel using Herald of Ice is a great clear speed boost, is it bec of the shatter AOE cold dmg from HoI?

Herald of Ice is a great clear speed boost if you can fit it, but I think it's mostly from the added dps. The area of effect is a bonus, and one that gets increased by Amplify, so that's cool.

How much mana do you have left with HoI active on top of HoT + Wrath + Grace? And you still have room for lvl 3 Clarity on mana after that? I tried HoI back when I took the 4% reduced mana reserved node to the left of Necromantic Aegis, but I was uncomfortable with the tiny amount of mana I had remaining. It probably would have been fine in a 5L, but my mana costs were too high in a 6L for that.

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Last night I wanted to get a 3R 2G from my 6s5L QotF. And I ended ripping 740 chromes and 140 fuses. ^^ it was fun tho., first time ripping so much.

Ouch. Well I'm glad you got the colors you wanted. Were you trying for a 6L with the Fuse?

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Firnefex wrote:

@ManicCompression

Do you use Cold Penetration just for the Shatter?
Because you don't have flat +Dmg on Gear, so Added Cold Damage gives more DPS and if there are Mobs with more life you need to shatter them first (takes longer) in order to let your Penetration work better.

Yeah, Added Cold Damage should give more dps.

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@Tempada

What is your chance to hit?
Do you really need +200 Acc on Gloves and +350 on Ring (heavy Dex and both Feathers have 200)? What would it be without Ring and Gloves?

My chance to hit is 90% at level 93 with a 2586 accuracy rating. It's nice and does increase tooltip dps, but my amount is overkill. I just happened to end up with gloves and a ring with good accuracy.

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Firnefex wrote:

@ManicCompression

Do the Mobs shatter only with Frostbite on them or is it possible to freeze them without, e.g. after shock?

Yep, squids specially. I just did a no curse map (but just a Spider Lair map).

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Firnefex wrote:

Do you use Cold Penetration just for the Shatter?
Because you don't have flat +Dmg on Gear, so Added Cold Damage gives more DPS and if there are Mobs with more life you need to shatter them first (takes longer) in order to let your Penetration work better.

I guess I'll try switching out cold pen for added cold. I just find ele resistant mobs annoying.
I'm noob here, so noob answer ^^.

@Tempada

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HoI active on top of HoT + Wrath + Grace

Right now i've turned off HoT, and i have 52 mana, (turned off clarity as well). And i'm running fine.

I tried the mana calculator:
https://poe.mikelat.com/#6KdXE7h/EkHk_Mo


Around 50 mana left with , so it should be good. But yeah I use 5L.

Curious, is this the best buff/aura setup we can get?

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Ouch. Well I'm glad you got the colors you wanted. Were you trying for a 6L with the Fuse?

Yep, I thought RNG would give me mercy.

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Yeah, Added Cold Damage should give more dps.

May I know why? wanna learn the mechanics on this.

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My chance to hit is 90% at level 93 with a 2586 accuracy rating. It's nice and does increase tooltip dps, but my amount is overkill. I just happened to end up with gloves and a ring with good accuracy.

Why overkill?

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btw, i'm finding it annoying to get stunned/interrupted suddenly, any way to fix this w/o much DPS loss?

Very interesting build. I've been looking for some "gotta go fast" dualwield, and this looks like the ticket. I would have some questions though, if you do not mind:

How crucial is the 6L on chest? I've seen people here using 5l, so I assume it's viable, but is there any point in running it on 4l?

This seems like a mostly mapping/piety build, given that it's core item is level 66+. How does it do before you can equip Dreamfeathers? Or did you respec it from something?

Is this build only really good with maxed gear? I know it will always perform better with max rolls, but for instance how big of a drawback would 1850 evasion Queen of the Forest be?

How are your elemental resistances? You run a lot of uniques, so good dual/triple res rares are mostly unaviable, and that feels like it would put a lot of strain on rings, amulet and belt, given how you want lots of resistances, and elemental damage.

And just from curiosity, how much movement speed you get with jade flask online?

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ManicCompression wrote:

Curious, is this the best buff/aura setup we can get?

Grace + Wrath + HoT is the best I've come up with (+ HoI if you take the 4% reduced mana reserved node). My earlier tree used Wrath + Anger + Grace, but the path wasn't as ideal. By moving into the Templar area instead of heading up to Influence, I get more life, more Cleave radius, and more damage potential with options like Celestial Judgement/Punishment.

The reason I focus on lightning damage is because it stacks best here. Wrath + HoT + Added Lightning Damage is better than what we can do with cold (HoI + Added Cold, no Hatred since it scales physical) or fire (HoA and Added Fire both scale physical damage, Anger is a mana hog).

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Yeah, Added Cold Damage should give more dps.

May I know why? wanna learn the mechanics on this.

I have to look into this. I think an Added Damage gem is best here (something to do with the build using multiple elemental damage types and having the ability to heavily scale lightning damage). I'll have to level a Lightning Penetration gem and see how it compares.

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My chance to hit is 90% at level 93 with a 2586 accuracy rating. It's nice and does increase tooltip dps, but my amount is overkill. I just happened to end up with gloves and a ring with good accuracy.

Why overkill?

More accuracy certainly doesn't hurt, but it's the first thing I would skimp on if I had more important things to get on accessories (life, resists, even weapon elemental or flat elemental damage). Dreamfeather has a nice amount of accuracy anyway, and you use two of them, so that's even more than usual.

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btw, i'm finding it annoying to get stunned/interrupted suddenly, any way to fix this w/o much DPS loss?

Huh, that's weird. Between Heart of Oak, high evasion, Acrobatics, and even some block chance, you should be good. It will get better as your gems level, dps climbs, and you kill enemies more quickly.

Also wanted to ask: how does Cast when Stunned feel in comparison to Cast when Damage Taken? That's clever since it allows you to fully level Immortal Call. Does it activate as frequently?