[3.10] Sovyn's Lazy Pally - Tanky Templar with Max Block

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CptSatch wrote:

When I swap Rare Helmet for Abyssus, I lose around 150 HP and 1% of armor.

That part is fine but the fact is you take 41% increased damage from physical blows which will be a problem in act 4 and maps in the upcoming content unless things change between now and then. I think there are better ways to get your dps higher. :) That said it will work fine in easy content but you would have to know what to avoid first.

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Sovyn wrote:

That part is fine but the fact is you take 41% increased damage from physical blows which will be a problem in act 4 and maps in the upcoming content unless things change between now and then. I think there are better ways to get your dps higher. :) That said it will work fine in easy content but you would have to know what to avoid first.

I know about act4 and new content, and I will probably try something new in the upcoming events,
I just want something to farm Atziri for now, since I dont have enough DPS for her (I have no problems with duoVaal and trios, but I'm lacking DPS for Atziri herself)

Yo Sovyn.
I was looking at your 2.0 skill tree and i was thinking that if u put a +2 block chance in all 4 jewel sockets (+8 block chance)
or to use 8 points to go to shadows/ranger area for a +4 block and use 2 jewel sockets for a total +4 spell block.
Which means that we dont need the tempest shield anymore for max our block...
Which means that we got space for another aura/buff.
I was thinking that gives us the oportunity to increase our defence using purity of lighting + lighting coil or to increase our damage with herald of ice with quality(+15% cold damage) since we use ice crush(or herald of thunder if we go back to static strike).
And secondly i will like to thank you for opening my eyes.
I was a soul taker user cause i had mana issues.
Turns out i was that dumb that i was using physical to lighting and i was doing 0 physical dmg which means i couldnt leech at all.
Plus i added 2 cooler rings and now i got 10k dmg more than before.

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sockgr wrote:

Yo Sovyn.
I was looking at your 2.0 skill tree and i was thinking that if u put a +2 block chance in all 4 jewel sockets (+8 block chance)
or to use 8 points to go to shadows/ranger area for a +4 block and use 2 jewel sockets for a total +4 spell block.
Which means that we dont need the tempest shield anymore for max our block...
Which means that we got space for another aura/buff.
I was thinking that gives us the oportunity to increase our defence using purity of lighting + lighting coil or to increase our damage with herald of ice with quality(+15% cold damage) since we use ice crush(or herald of thunder if we go back to static strike).
And secondly i will like to thank you for opening my eyes.
I was a soul taker user cause i had mana issues.
Turns out i was that dumb that i was using physical to lighting and i was doing 0 physical dmg which means i couldnt leech at all.
Plus i added 2 cooler rings and now i got 10k dmg more than before.

Hi Sock, Actually most people won't have room for another aura/buff if they drop Tempest Shield. This is because reduced mana is going away and the replacement (enlighten) will be too expensive to get the same level of reduction. Herald of ice maybe if you use cyclone with blood magic, but that one barely does anything at all for us so there is little point to running it. I'm not sure on the quality bonus but it says 'increased' so I'm not sure it would be a lot.

You can get a 4% block lazhwar if you are rich enough and then drop tempest and use the free mana for running an attack skill (other than cyclone) without blood magic which will allow you another dps support gem. Of course I'm thinking of using TS for applying our curse but you could move it to CWDT (see test results previous page).

Also going over to the 4% block node is expensive. It's better to take something else like more life or the new fortify cluster instead.

Purity of Lightning is a 35% (in beta), TS is a 25%, so it wouldn't fit without dropping HoA or hatred which is not a great idea. I think we will be one of the VERY FEW builds in 2.0 that don't really need Lightning Coil. :)

You maybe right but i beleave with lvl 3 enlighten you can use 3 auras/buffs plus have a spare mana for using a 6l slot for more dps.(lvl 3 wont be easy or cheap... i know)
Sovyn i havent played beta but is enlighten counts as a aura gem from now on?
If yes then imagine it on alphas howl with a +2 to aura gems it would be super cool.
i hope this works... if this works we can use alphas and a full armor chest.

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And second thought...
If everythink went well and we got lvl 3 enlighten and we can use purity of lighting maybe thats the answer to the think u say earlier about hard p.atk hitters...
Plus you can keep our curse combo.

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On the other hand if alphas howl works and use ligting coil then we have to use a shild that gives us armor.
But all this is just theory i hope you cant try some of this on beta so we can prepered. :D

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sockgr wrote:

You maybe right but i beleave with lvl 3 enlighten you can use 3 auras/buffs plus have a spare mana for using a 6l slot for more dps.(lvl 3 wont be easy or cheap... i know)
Sovyn i havent played beta but is enlighten counts as a aura gem from now on?
If yes then imagine it on alphas howl with a +2 to aura gems it would be super cool.
i hope this works... if this works we can use alphas and a full armor chest.

edit:
And second thought...
If everythink went well and we got lvl 3 enlighten and we can use purity of lighting maybe thats the answer to the think u say earlier about hard p.atk hitters...
Plus you can keep our curse combo.

I was gambling that Englighten would enable the 3 auras/buffs plus some free mana when I mentioned it in the guide, yes, but I won't be recommending it as a 'for most folks' item.

Enlighten will be a support with a mana multiplier on it like reduced mana in 1.3, it's not an aura so it won't have a +gem level synergy with Alpha's. The reduced mana reserved mods will stack though. Vertex would give +1 level to Enlighten.

I don't think any of these are good options frankly and at level 3 Enlighten would only give me 44 free mana which is not useful.

So folks can drop TS and use +4 block amulet or +2 block gloves and +2 amulet, or drop HoA, or use or blood magic support on the attack and movement skills and use all three buffs (cheapest option).

I think Fortify + max block + the occasional endurance charge and perhaps enfeeble as the curse choice would be plenty, I don't think we need Coil. Since you are interested let me share with you another beta skill tree I've been playing around with - I don't think it scales as well at lower levels and it would be finished at a higher level but it is interesting due to adding some additional defenses.

hmmm sounds like u are right... enlighten looks shity even at lvl 3.
what if we spend some points for 16% aura reduction in the Templar/Witch area.
with this we will have 24% mana left with lvl 3 enlighten(16% with purity).
this will free us some mana for 6l slot.

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sockgr wrote:

hmmm sounds like u are right... enlighten looks shity even at lvl 3.
what if we spend some points for 16% aura reduction in the Templar/Witch area.
with this we will have 24% mana left with lvl 3 enlighten(16% with purity).
this will free us some mana for 6l slot.

Yes I'm sure Sovereignty would be enough but I don't think it's worth the 9 point cost. There used to be good block nodes up there then it was worth it, now, not so much.

Options:

- Drop TS and use +4 block amulet or +2 block gloves and +2 amulet

- Drop HoA

- Use blood magic support on the attack and movement skills

- Enlighten + Alphas

None of them are especially better or worse than the others because they are all compromises.

ok i do some maths. so a sum up...
i beleave is woth the 9 points to get 16% aura reduction
because even if u put 9 notes in dps
you wont get the damage u will get with the 6th gem + HoI(or purity)
plus we get the 3 int notes that we trully need.

i play the lazy pally as a scion(that gives me 3 more points to invest)
so i think my build will be like that.



my mana without coil will be like that


and with coil like that(Optional: use alphas howl or Conqueror's Efficiency depending how u can handle it)

if u dont whant to use alphas or conqueror u can remove 3 notes from the cluster above resolute technique or remove the 3 life notes in devotion area

your mana will be like that

plus this will go to

#for_most_folks
#noob_friendly
#we_will_keep_same_gear (not big changes, maybe not even a single change besides enlighten)
#you_can_do_it_without_enlighten (this is the mana without enlighten):


whats ur thoughts boss?