[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

Never sink mentions in 3.0 changes that Vaal Pact is no more, yet in his First Tree he selects Vaal Pact, so do we pick it or ignore?

Also, I'm running 6 link lionseye with Elemental Weakness /w Attacks, I'm assuming this is a curse so there's no point in running Warlords or Assassins then? Since it won't reply? Thanks for the answers!
I just had a massive damage boost adding in a Lev1 Herald of Thunder + Lev1 Innervate, so its definitely applying Shock now.

Essense Worm Unset Ring lets me use:

Hatred - 0% Reserve
Herald of Ice + Ice Bite + Curse on Hit + Assassin's Mark
Herald of Thunder + Innervate

Anything else I could link into HoT+I? would Onslaught work perhaps? ;) Edit: Onslaught no work, the buff only applies if the HoT AOE thunder makes the kill :(

I've got a spare 4L with nothing in it. Is there any benefit to having a second CWDT/IC/ID stack, maybe level CWDT once so the damage trigger is slightly offset? Would that even work? Alternatively, should I look at a different CWDT group perhaps? Ball Lightning+Blind+GMP?
Last edited by MushaConvoy#7927 on Oct 25, 2017, 5:20:47 AM
"Hardcore - You absolutely can play a HC version of that build, but you'll have to sacrifice some damage and utility."

Can someone tell me what to change beside the helmet?

Any other HC advice will be welcome.


Thanks!
Are we supposed to use Vaal pact or not? Anyone know? Neversink posted very conflitcting information. @Neversink
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Lanceabbott wrote:

Can someone tell me what to change beside the helmet?

Any other HC advice will be welcome.


Thanks!


I died a fair bit early on, especially during the campaign. Some of those bosses are just nasty. Currently level 84, max resists, 4K life, Starkonja hat, and I was using Warlords Mark. I've only just started to feel more reliable now with the extra Leech adjustments from some total champion a few posts above and got hold of a Queen of the Forest chestpiece, but even with all that evasion, there are some pretty close calls due to the low life pool.

For HC I would say you absolutely must invest in the Kaoms Heart chest... for me thats too rich for my blood, but to get you above the 4k life mark, you'd want that.

Thats just my 2c (chaos right?), if I was looking at hardcore again I'd go someone with more life...........
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xWickedx420 wrote:
Are we supposed to use Vaal pact or not? Anyone know? Neversink posted very conflitcting information. @Neversink


I absolutely use Vaal Pact, without it, Leech is far too slow at regeneration (I tried it....). With Pact, life is almost instantaneous.
Would someone be so kind to check my profile and make any recommendations? This is my character from the last season that I'm hoping to kill the shaper/atziri with before the next season.

I'm starting red maps and have been able to clear a couple (as long as no reflect), but it's getting a bit harrowing. Not even exactly sure where my next upgrades should be, but currently hoping for a better helm/chest worth 100+ HP.
Hey Everyone I need a little bit of help! First off thank you @Neversink for this amazing Guide. Currently I have a level 86 Raider Ranger that can clear up to tier 15's sheet damage is 22k unbuffed for TS, but I take way too much damage and get one shot a lot. My Skill Tree is the same as Neversinks 1st Build minus Vaal Pact, I don't know if I'm supposed to spec into it, he's not clear.

Currently I have 3381 Health, and 19k Evasion.

Gear - Rats Nest 4L
Queen of the Forest 6s4L
Lionseye Glare Bow - 6S6L
Carnage Heart Amulet
2x Two Stone Rings for Capped Res
Doryani's Invitation Belt
Maligaros Virtuosity Gloves 4L
Rare Boot /w Res and 30% MF and Speed 4L

For Lionseye I have TS-GMP-PPAD-PhytoLight-Elemental Damage /w Attacks-Faster Attacks all Linked.

Rats Nest - I have CWDT-ID-IC Linked.

Now I need help with the rest? Which curse do I use? Also I have Faster Attacks-Blink Arrow Linked & Decoy Totem-Totem Resist Linked.

I don't know which curse to use with a CoH application. Currently I don't have HoT/Hatred linked to anything, I have about 4 skill spots left open, any advice to make me less squishy would be appreciated! Thank you all! @Neversink

Other skills I use, that aren't linked to anything.. Hatred / Ice Golem / Frenzy / HoT / Portal / Enduring Cry

I don't know if I should use a secondary attack, and I don't know if/how to set up a CoH link.
Last edited by xWickedx420#2626 on Oct 25, 2017, 11:41:00 AM
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xWickedx420 wrote:
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You have to many uniques - so very low life. Switch belt and gloves to rares. Those are more suited for Kaom chest setup, where you have a lot of life. Amulett too. You probably do very low physical damage - so carnage heart is no big help at all.

Rats Nest to Starkojas - 90+ Life and 2 defense effects (reduced damage and more evasion when on low life) - just a little bit less crit than Rats.

CoH - a typical chain would be CoH-HoI-Assassins-Ice Bite. HoT with innervate is also discussed here and some other curses like elemental weakness or Projectile weakness are mentioned in OP. Note you can have just one curse active on enemies.

Ice golem - I've seen that some recommend to put it in a chain with CTWD - so you don't have to recast it that often manually. However you want to keep CTWD very low (level 2-3) - but it can't sustain a high level Ice Golem then. Unless CTWD triggers he will be off too.

Have IG at 20/20 (got it from a prophecy) and also some support gem there with adds another 8 quality - but that isn't needed . Ice golem can survive enough at 20/20 - only with harbingers and bosses I have to recast him sometimes. He can be used to tank the boss + decoy totem so I can keep distance (which would also work with you Lion Bow very well).

If you wanna keep QotF - you'll need 90+ Life on all slots (except bow). Maybe even more. So good rares have high life + strength and then the user needed stats.

2nd attack: Barrage for Bosses. Even 4 link is strong. Either chest - or second bow. Bought a Reach bow - 270 pDPS 5L for 30c and I currently switch with X (which is a little bit annoying) - 5L/6l chest would be better - but they cost way more.
Hi there, I am a bit confused, i am new to ge game more or less.
The Post talks about MANA and to use the skill Spirit Void for that matter, but then at the skill tree it provides he is not using Spirit Void at all. So what should I do?

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