[1.2.2] Sando's 1.4m+ dps Dual Strike Scion / Uber Atziri viable
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latest 9/23/2014
My build got buffed since 1.2 Patch. My build is not negatively affected by any changes from 1.2 such as skill gem re-balance, unique re-design etc. The positive aspect of 1.2 patch to my build is that I am able to obtain 14% increased attack block. In order to complete my patch 1.2 build, you need to be level 95, which is 113 points.
what is changed in Patch 1.2
1.1.5 → 1.2
The motto of this build is "Kill before being hit"
This guide is for the people who has Atziri's Acuity. If you don't have Acuity, check the passive tree in the next section. 9/15/2014 Updated From recent updates, there were few changes for passive skill tree. 9/23/2014 Updated I have changed Additional Accuracy gem from dual strike links to Faster Attacks. By doing this, chance to hit decreases from 92% to 82% and crit chance drops about 2%, but the increase of attack speed will raise your overall DPS. I believe additional accuracy is better by increasing accuracy with crit chance, but if you want to raise your tool tip's dps more, use faster attacks.
latest 9/23/2014
skill tree
If you equip acuity, you no longer needs Vaal Pact, so we can take out all the nodes to the VP. However, if you don't have enough resistance from your items, you should keep the all resist nodes. If you delete VP, you will get extra 15 points, and there for we can get charisma node. If we get charisma, we can use Herald of Ash to boost our dps. For the High-End passive nodes, at level 95, with 113 points you can get all the nodes. Rest points are up to you guys.
gem setting
By using the Herald of Ash gem, there is no longer empty socket. In "Blood Rage - Enhance - Increased Duration" Link, we can replace Enahnce to Temporal Chains or Vaal Double Strike.
Skill tree for Shadow
Many people asked if this build is doable with Shadow. The basic guide skill tree takes VP, and by starting from shadow, you will have to get unnecessary points, so I do not recommand it. However, for the High-End skill tree, you should be fine with Shadow. I personally prefer Shadow's look, but Start playing with Scion to grab Vaal pact and Unwavering Stance Keystone. You are wasting too many skill points to grab both vaal pact and unwavering stance keystone with Shadow class. You don't necessarily need Atziri glove to get high DPS Surely, Atziri's Acuity Vaal Gauntlets is needed for physical damage reflection mobs, but it is not recommended to be purchased before you acquire other core items since the cost is extremely high. Vaal pact can be removed from nod after you acquire Atziri's Acuity Vaal Gauntlets. Unwavering Stance is essential for those who are leveling or having difficulties with having enough dps. Therefore, until you can firmly say that I will not get stunned without US, this is mandatory node to get. 8/21/2014 Updated Below skill tree is the end-game skill tree. My end game skill tree does not contain Unwavering Stance. If you believe that Unwavering Stance is in great need, just get rid of 6 points from nodes and get Unwavering Stance. I still strongly recommend you guys to acquire Unwavering Stance while leveling. 8/30/2014 Updated I could get more ES & all resistance & evasion rating by taking Void Barrier. I didn't notice...sorry :( So, finally I got 2% ES, 8% all resistance, 26% evasion rating more!! Thanks DarkMass for telling! 9/15/2014 Updated basic passive skill tree has be adjusted to match high-end skill tree.
Skill tree
Unique
The very first item that you should aim for is "Bino's Kitchen Knife" Bino's Kitchen Knife is the most cost-efficient item and can be used from beginning till the end-game. Abyssus This is a "double-edged sword" item. While you are able to get a substaintial boost in Physical damage, your physical damage taken increases accordingly. It is only recommended to be used in instances where you feel safe. Maligaro's Virtuosity Cost efficient glove that can be until acquiring Acuity Vaal Gauntlets. Rainbowstride Rainbowstride is the something that you can consider it as an end-game gear. Dream Fragments Since we are vulnerable to frozen skills, it is recommended to acquire Dream Fragments. doryani's invitation This belt is good for pdps & all resi. The build works efficiently well with mirrored gears listed on next thread Having ar/es mirrored chest would benefit you most to progress this build.
Mirror service
For AoE attack, i'm using Spectral Throw with LMP and Faster Attacks, but not using Faster Projectiles because it increases the range of ST, you might be killed by physical reflect out of your sight. So I don't link Faster Projectiles to ST, and I don't have to face the situation I can't handle. If you have Atziri's Acuity Vaal Gauntlets, you can use Faster Projectiles gem because you don't have to worry about reflect mod. Click the image to see a larger version: 8/28/2014 Updated I've changed skill gem settings due to the 1.2 patch since mobs' defense and attack damage got increased. In order to increase the survivability more, I have put down increased duration linked with immortal call. By doing this, we cannot use curse on damage taken. To fix this, since there is one socket left in the helm, I decided to use curse by casting myself. I have also changed the position of gems, since we are going for the mirror items, having a GGGB on boots will let us make easy to get socket colors on gloves and helm. 9/23/2014 Updated I have changed Additional Accuracy gem from dual strike links to Faster Attacks. By doing this, chance to hit decreases from 92% to 82% and crit chance drops about 2%, but the increase of attack speed will raise your overall DPS. I believe additional accuracy is better by increasing accuracy with crit chance, but if you want to raise your tool tip's dps more, use faster attacks.
Vaal Haste setting
There is increased duration gem in the dagger, so if you use vaal haste it will last 11 seconds. If you want crazy dps use VH.
Enhance setting
If you link Enhance into blood rage, life steal becomes 13%. Use Enhance if you want higher life steal.
Many people said that it's hard to level up with this build, and it was hard for me as well. So, I suggest getting a ES shield and use double strike instead. There is no passive tree difference, and you can just use dual strike's tree and gem setting, then change back later. If you do this, your dps will go down a bit, but you'll have decent amount of ES to help your leveling. For me, I was able to raise my ES from 5882 to 7560 by equipping the below shield. Since double strike is similar melee skill as dual strike, you will be able to learn your play style. If you want to play even more safer without changing the passive tree, use double strie & ES shield. If you want to start dual strike from beginning check the next category's tip. Don't forget to level up dual strike when you are using double strike.
DPS
This tip is for the people who wants to play Dualwielding from beginnning. If you want to play without changing the passive tree, check the above Tip "about DS & ES shield." Many ppl ask me novice stkill tree. So I introduce the tip about life base skilltree. If you go for life base first, it's more easy to leveling.
life base skilltree for beginners by RainCat
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Why wouldn't you proceed with low-life build? By using shav and coe, you could increase your dps through using various auras (anger,wrath,haste etc). However, since my build is aimed to use dual-weapon instead of weapon+energy shield, proceeding with low-life will result in extremely low amount of total energy shield. (ar/es helmet can be used for certain situation) And there are the other couple of reasons. First, having Chaos Inoculation applies you to have dmg on full life, it means you will always hold 1/1 life on any situation which also works as full-life. Second you get extra crit-multiplier on Abyssus and this allows you to boost insane amount of dps. With all these gear setup I listed, you will have pretty low amount of energy shield. If that doesn't suit your play-style go with ar/es helm but this lowers tons of damage so at the end you will have to pick one, it's either risky side with extra damage or non-risky side with lower damage. It's on your personal taste. Which node should I go for when I start this build? It is better to get es nodes first because of survivability. Other nodes are dps nodes, so get them whenever you need to. When should I get CI? picking CI without any es gear is not viable to play so play different character to collect some currency until you can afford es gear or you can start up hp base character first then respec it to C.I later. With all those merciless quests you will have more than enough to respec. Once you think you can reach 3500 es with es gear, respec it to C.I. Is it better to take US first? As all of us face with different level/speed of item farming progression, the order of giving points to certain nodes should vary. For example, if you are not having problems with getting stunned often, you could probably hold on to giving point in Unwavering Stance node and invest that point into other nodes. (FYI, I highly recommend giving point to US around act 3 merciless). While you level, the impact that each skill node gives is quite minimal with an exception of few significant nodes; therfore you probably do not need to worry about it too much. If you ultimately aim to proceed with energy shield, i still recommend taking energy shield nodes along with few life nodes while leveling. Even if it is difficult to level with energy shield nodes, it will be even more difficult to alter your skill tree later on if you don't grab energy shield nodes as you level. Can you suggest any armour setting? Since we are not getting any armour nodes in passive tree, we have to rely our armour from items. Not even it will be dangerous to face high physical damage monsters, but we also have to consider physical reflex mobs. By getting armour/es equipments, we are able to get some lacking armour. I am in the process of making 1.4m+ dps DualStrike build. If you want to view 500k dps DualStrike build please refer to below link.
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DPS. 1.4m+ 9/22/2014 ~
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" This is data for the other people who are using this same build. By looking at their item settings, you can estimate how much dps you can make. Thanks again for the people who gave feedbacks!
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" * IGN :: Sando * Stream :: twitch.tv/pfmesando * Sando's Dual Strike Scion Guide :: view-thread/982505 * Sando's Necro Explosive Arrow Shadow Guide :: view-thread/1095772 * Korean Community :: eyeofleopard.com Last edited by sando on Feb 19, 2015, 8:05:23 AM
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Hey there
Im trying to figure out a build to be playing when the NeXT Leagues are comming. Ive always wanted to play as a CI user but the gear req for it just seems to hard to manage at the start of a new League. Do you have any ideas in how to manage lesser viable items at the start to be able to go CI ? My favoured attacks are stuff like reave, double/dual strike, flicker. So i was wondering if you think it would be viable to start out with CI or if u maybe had an idea to tweeking to the build to not go CI at the begining, maybe evasion or armor ? Best Regards Noc IGN: Iznogood / IceIce_bby
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" picking CI without any es gear is not viable to play so play different character to collect some currency until you can afford es gear or you can start up hp base character first then respec it to C.I later. With all those merciless quests you will have more than enough to respec. Once you think you can reach 3500 es with es gear, respec it to C.I. * IGN :: Sando
* Stream :: twitch.tv/pfmesando * Sando's Dual Strike Scion Guide :: view-thread/982505 * Sando's Necro Explosive Arrow Shadow Guide :: view-thread/1095772 * Korean Community :: eyeofleopard.com | |
How did your leveling go?
I have a level 83 scion but I don't feel like spending the currency for a full respec and selling gear atm. Do you go for all ES gear or a mixture? I'm currently going with any ES i can find with phys dmg on belt, hp rings and 2 daggers reave/spec throw for aoe clear and dualstrike. going straight down the to unwavering stance to get it, or should I grab the AS nodes and on, first? Creator
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" As all of us face with different level/speed of item farming progression, the order of giving points to certain nodes should vary. For example, if you are not having problems with getting stunned often, you could probably hold on to giving point in Unwavering Stance node and invest that point into other nodes. (FYI, I highly recommend giving point to US around act 3 merciless). While you level, the impact that each skill node gives is quite minimal with an exception of few significant nodes; therfore you probably do not need to worry about it too much. If you ultimately aim to proceed with energy shield, i still recommend taking energy shield nodes along with few life nodes while leveling. Even if it is difficult to level with energy shield nodes, it will be even more difficult to alter your skill tree later on if you don't grab energy shield nodes as you level. * IGN :: Sando
* Stream :: twitch.tv/pfmesando * Sando's Dual Strike Scion Guide :: view-thread/982505 * Sando's Necro Explosive Arrow Shadow Guide :: view-thread/1095772 * Korean Community :: eyeofleopard.com | |
From watching your stream, this build is unplayable if you want to level. Takes glass cannon to the next level.
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Hi I download the game with steam account and now I cant logout.My friend give me his account to play with scion but I must log in but I cant when I cant logout.Can u tell me how to log out or I must download the game from the real site?
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added explanation of Faster Attacks & Faster Projectiles
* IGN :: Sando
* Stream :: twitch.tv/pfmesando * Sando's Dual Strike Scion Guide :: view-thread/982505 * Sando's Necro Explosive Arrow Shadow Guide :: view-thread/1095772 * Korean Community :: eyeofleopard.com | |
I am starting to having a hardtime leveling now, i am level 55 scion with kinda decent gear but i am glass-cannon as fu*k. Sort off the moment i get one hit my energy shield is down and then i am dead becuase of 1 life node.. :<
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