[2.1 Ghazzy - Summoner Guides] Low Budget Builds

Hey guys!

Gonna see if i can catch up on everything briefly in this post:

I would suggest new SRS players to the HP witch version as the lvling guide works for that. However both Templar and Witch versions are slightly better (tree wise) imo.

I will move my buildtree list to the main thread now that i've concluded that they are all legit and working.


For direct assistance i will forward you to my stream @ www.twitch.tv/Ghazzy

Is there a reason not to use minion damage over added fire for single target?

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ruhtraking wrote:

Is there a reason not to use minion damage over added fire for single target?

Absolutely, Minion Damage is the stronger gem compared to Added Fire. However, the reason i chose to use Added Fire instead is because of the simply fact that we need to change a red gem for Melee Splash to handle AoE (trash enemies before bosses) which is changed with Added Fire. If we chose to use Minion Damage our AoE DPS would recieve a significant loss compared to the very small difference between Added Fire vs Minion Damage.

However, due to the recent nerfs it might be wise to drop AoE DPS for the sake of higher single target. Then on the other hand the differences is only worth to bother when it comes to Uber Atziri and personally i only use Added Fire for the trio-boss whilst both the first and Atziri herself i use Melee Phys when full life for optimized DPS increase.


I hope that clearified any confusion with the chosing of gems.

I am sorry to ask this, but I havent really understand what you think is safer:

CI or HP or low life ES?!

Sometimes you say HP is more stable and sometimes not xD

I am a little bit confused.

Soryy and Thanks for the answer :D

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skycraft1811 wrote:

I am sorry to ask this, but I havent really understand what you think is safer:

CI or HP or low life ES?!

Sometimes you say HP is more stable and sometimes not xD

I am a little bit confused.

Soryy and Thanks for the answer :D

I'm sorry for any confusion i have caused, let me clearify:

Low Life Shav builds are the most fun and highest DPS one, however the HP build is more resilient (safer). However sometimes specially @ Uber having more DPS can be a better choice over being able to take a second hit.

I happen to have a Kaoms Chest drop for me last night. I was thinking the Templar HP build you have may work with it though getting the Strength requirement for the chest and Dex for the Vaal haste would be very difficult. It seems like a hard chest piece to pass up as the extra fire damage and Hp would work well with the Templar tree.

What are your thoughts?

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Ghazzy wrote:

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skycraft1811 wrote:

I am sorry to ask this, but I havent really understand what you think is safer:

CI or HP or low life ES?!

Sometimes you say HP is more stable and sometimes not xD

I am a little bit confused.

Soryy and Thanks for the answer :D

I'm sorry for any confusion i have caused, let me clearify:

Low Life Shav builds are the most fun and highest DPS one, however the HP build is more resilient (safer). However sometimes specially @ Uber having more DPS can be a better choice over being able to take a second hit.

That was helpful, thanks.
The only problem is to get a shavronnes xD

I am thinking about taking some zombies (with minion life) with me, as a meat shield. Do you think this is possible, or is it strongly recommended to take all the vaal spells?! Atm I am using vaal Skeletons for bosses ....

Thanks

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Jaxom wrote:

I happen to have a Kaoms Chest drop for me last night. I was thinking the Templar HP build you have may work with it though getting the Strength requirement for the chest and Dex for the Vaal haste would be very difficult. It seems like a hard chest piece to pass up as the extra fire damage and Hp would work well with the Templar tree.

What are your thoughts?

Fire dmg, spell dmg, elemental dmg etc etc not even crit / global crit stuffs will ever provide SRS with any sort of benefit. They are minions (seperate entities from us) which means they only gets affected by support gems and/or minion nodes on the tree.

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skycraft1811 wrote:

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Ghazzy wrote:

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skycraft1811 wrote:

I am sorry to ask this, but I havent really understand what you think is safer:

CI or HP or low life ES?!

Sometimes you say HP is more stable and sometimes not xD

I am a little bit confused.

Soryy and Thanks for the answer :D

I'm sorry for any confusion i have caused, let me clearify:

Low Life Shav builds are the most fun and highest DPS one, however the HP build is more resilient (safer). However sometimes specially @ Uber having more DPS can be a better choice over being able to take a second hit.

That was helpful, thanks.
The only problem is to get a shavronnes xD

I am thinking about taking some zombies (with minion life) with me, as a meat shield. Do you think this is possible, or is it strongly recommended to take all the vaal spells?! Atm I am using vaal Skeletons for bosses ....

Thanks

The Vaal Hastes are used for the Atziri fight alone, and the Vaal Skellies only for the Trio-Boss and i do use 1 vaal haste for trio.

However, outside Atziri map i would suggest using Spell Totem + Skeleton (2L) and cast that instead of Arc to provide yourself with target decoys, without minion HP nodes they die from 1-2 hits but the totem summons 2 at the time at a decent rate thanks to your cast speed. This is more than enough to make lvling in maps safe and doesnt cause you to spend a ton of sockets to sort nor does it force you to take HP nodes!

A 6L staff dropped for me today in Torment and I chaosed it to +2 fire gems (with room for cast speed) pretty quickly. I'm thinking this is a sign to go for SRS.

I'd like to be farming Atziri ASAP and Uber eventually.

I have a lot of experience killing Atziri as TS/Puncture but never as SRS.


If you were in my position (nice staff, nothing much of interest otherwise in terms of gear) which version would you recommend starting with, Ghazzy?

If it makes any difference my current build is a LL MF flame totem character running solaris lorica.

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swarmofseals wrote:

A 6L staff dropped for me today in Torment and I chaosed it to +2 fire gems (with room for cast speed) pretty quickly. I'm thinking this is a sign to go for SRS.

I'd like to be farming Atziri ASAP and Uber eventually.

I have a lot of experience killing Atziri as TS/Puncture but never as SRS.


If you were in my position (nice staff, nothing much of interest otherwise in terms of gear) which version would you recommend starting with, Ghazzy?

If it makes any difference my current build is a LL MF flame totem character running solaris lorica.

You managed to make me jelly with 1 picture...

I would use that for HP-SRS Summoner to handle Atziri EASILY (due to 6l..... )
And you can uppgrade the HP gear to the point where it can handle uber. That will however require a +3 staff.