Season Eight, Event 151: 40 Minute Descent Champions

Yes yes, delete my messages, it's obviously the right way to resolve the matter, to hide behind this naming and shaming nonsense

WTF just happend ;) im place 15 but now not on the list anymore, i just disapeared

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cwu wrote:

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Helman is winning every race as duelist, Mors and Goratha are winning every race as marauder.
If you are suspecting somebody is violating Terms of Use use the ways which would not violate Terms of Use yourself. (Ex. http://www.pathofexile.com/support)

Helman and Mors have been racing for 8 seasons and since CB respectively. You do not show up without racing before and start hitting level 9 every burst race, outfarm everyone in every vanilla solo race and get 2 DC #1 records on the most contested classes in a row.

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cwu wrote:

Helman and Mors have been racing for 8 seasons and since CB respectively. You do not show up without racing before and start hitting level 9 every burst race, outfarm everyone in every vanilla solo race and get 2 DC #1 records on the most contested classes in a row.

If somebody is not being part of your "cool racers" team it doesn't automatically make the cheaters. If I wouldn't see how you do stuff on streams I was probably suspecting you all in cheating too. Or I could assume that you are just better than me and know way more tricks than I do. For some reason you are rejecting such option towards another guy.

There are a lot of people, who are not part of our team, don't stream, yet i have no problems with them. Because i actually saw them make progress in being poor-good-great racer. And they don't get such consistent results all the time.

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kefirhl wrote:

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cwu wrote:

Helman and Mors have been racing for 8 seasons and since CB respectively. You do not show up without racing before and start hitting level 9 every burst race, outfarm everyone in every vanilla solo race and get 2 DC #1 records on the most contested classes in a row.

If somebody is not being part of your "cool racers" team it doesn't automatically make the cheaters. If I wouldn't see how you do stuff on streams I was probably suspecting you all in cheating too. Or I could assume that you are just better than me and know way more tricks than I do. For some reason you are rejecting such option towards another guy.

Some of these records are impossible to obtain unless you magically know exactly where every fucking blue pack is and make beelines straight for them.

I've seen some of these guys on Shadow gain 150k exp in 1 minute. This kind of shit doesn't happen unless you managed to chain blues end to end for that entire 60 seconds.

The top racers have discussed this and we KNOW the limits of what you can do and cannot do. Blatant hacking is very obvious and these people aren't even hiding it.

Let me tell you, achieving a high 1.6m - 1.7m legitimately on a shadow without flameblast is very difficult. It means you got perfect packs in all 3 halls and had smooth kills on every boss. If people who have been racing for 8 seasons cannot consistently achieve this, a random account showing up and doing this is very unlikely, moreso to do it in EVERY RACE what more surpass it by 300k on a regular basis.

I can guarantee you that Rithz, Metronomy and I have exhausted every possible strategy on a Shadow and you won't hit that EXP tier.

I monitor how these players do in races and I know what they're capable of.

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cwu wrote:

There are a lot of people, who are not part of our team, don't stream, yet i have no problems with them. Because i actually saw them make progress in being poor-good-great racer. And they don't get such consistent results all the time.

So what. You didn't see that someone made a progress not giving you any right to judge them.
Again, I'm saying when I'm watching Helman, Goratha, Mors in races they are getting consistent result unless they do something dumb, these guys are not very skilled in games but still they are doing better than others, and consistent. If I'd assume that there is a person with high experience and high gaming skills I'd totally believe that his results would be better and fair earned. But for some reason you are are rejecting that fact. Helman, Goratha, Mors are good players, but not great.

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cwu wrote:

There are a lot of people, who are not part of our team, don't stream, yet i have no problems with them. Because i actually saw them make progress in being poor-good-great racer. And they don't get such consistent results all the time.

While I can see where you are coming from I dont really think its fair to call him a cheater without any actual proof.

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Lyralei wrote:

The top racers have discussed this and we KNOW the limits of what you can do and cannot do. Blatant hacking is very obvious and these people aren't even hiding it.

Let me tell you, achieving a high 1.6m - 1.7m legitimately on a shadow without flameblast is very difficult. It means you got perfect packs in all 3 halls and had smooth kills on every boss. If people who have been racing for 8 seasons cannot consistently achieve this, a random account showing up and doing this is very unlikely.

I can guarantee you that Rithz, Metronomy and I have exhausted every possible strategy on a Shadow and you won't hit that EXP tier.

They are only top because there is no real great gamers in POE atm. Maybe that guy is the one and you are spreading hates because you don't understand that you are just worse than him? Not understanding something doesn't give you a right to make shaming assumptions.
Your thinking is limited and conservative. You don't understand that there is variety of path in PoE and you could be missing one of path because it was not obvious to you. But somebody with greater gaming skill is using that path.