If Snapshot is fixed what happens with RF?

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Thare are very good summon builds that are very strong without snapshoting

Not really sure what you mean by this. The main things summoners snapshot are the following:

- Abusing various uniques by getting their bonus without using them or even bypassing their intended consequences. None of these are build defining beyond letting summoners use high good rare items instead of permanently using these uniques. or having twice the amount of zombies they should have.

- Snapshotting to merely be able to use more gems and use more supports than usual. Like every other build summoners will have to limit what they use which is fine for every other build in the game.

None of those break builds or define a summoner build. They definitely make them weaker but summoners have not been weak since the massive buff they got from a summoner themed patch. The best summoners can't even fully snapshot against uber atziri since they will often resummon(yes selfcast summoners have done uber atziri).

I know there's another thread on this but:

I'm pretty sure ggg isn't just going to stick a knife in our arms and just walk away.

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elitedesolator wrote:

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Alea wrote:

never tried RF, too much skills required to run it, snapshit and walking in mobs/fire immunity, im too much noob to play this gozu gamestyle.

Guy with 7 challenges complete saying he's too much noob.

If you're too noob then what are we lol.

BTW so what would a zero snapshot RF look like? I'm guessing the damage will decrease at least 50%?

will depend on if u are including dual curse and the change of buffing items, also depends on how GGG fixes shapshoting.

If u can go low life , turn on RF then go off low life and still keep the low life buff from 1 red beak then the damage change will be VERY small if useing dual curses ( asuming we are not talking about a Koams character ). So for most RF guys the change will not be to big. Also take into consideration that with making a few changes in socket lay out ( removing CoDT to better EE procks or removing EE and going with a higher damage secoundary self cast spell ) a character can reach Damage pretty close to the same.

Koams heart players may have a much bigger change however , if u have a koams and are a top damage RF character chances are u have a good idea about how to deal with the change.

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jebroni wrote:

I'm pretty sure ggg isn't just going to stick a knife in our arms and just walk away.

They are not "sticking a knife in your arms", they are fixing an exploit that you have knowingly been taking advantage of.

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elitedesolator wrote:

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SirSid wrote:

Thare are very good summon builds that are very strong without snapshoting, however they are very diffrent than the version that build around shapshoting to get it's damage.

Mind giving us more details about that? :)

take a good look into minnion instability ;)

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SirSid wrote:

will depend on if u are including dual curse and the change of buffing items, also depends on how GGG fixes shapshoting.

If u can go low life , turn on RF then go off low life and still keep the low life buff from 1 red beak then the damage change will be VERY small if useing dual curses ( asuming we are not talking about a Koams character ). So for most RF guys the change will not be to big. Also take into consideration that with making a few changes in socket lay out ( removing CoDT to better EE procks or removing EE and going with a higher damage secoundary self cast spell ) a character can reach Damage pretty close to the same.

Koams heart players may have a much bigger change however , if u have a koams and are a top damage RF character chances are u have a good idea about how to deal with the change.

I suppose. I would assume that low-life snapshotting will also be fixed along with regular snapshotting though.

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Mivo wrote:

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jebroni wrote:

I'm pretty sure ggg isn't just going to stick a knife in our arms and just walk away.

They are not "sticking a knife in your arms", they are fixing an exploit that you have knowingly been taking advantage of.

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you don't need snapshot to run RF.

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jebroni wrote:

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Yes, you did. See Malone's post. Also, I only do PNG.