If Snapshot is fixed what happens with RF?

i think many know how RF dmg sucks without the 2x redbeak snapshot. a RF build has so many drawbacks like "can`t play this map, can`t play that map" and "spending almost all passive points in regen and health" and "you are melee" and some other points.

would like to know if GGG buffs RF in some way to still make it a viable build. and pls don`t post shice like "it`s still viable and great". ANY melee build will do faaar beter then RF without snapshot.

Theres literally the same thread on the gameplay discussions board.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/950569

Please search before making a duplicate thread (Not directly aimed at you but in general)

Even with snapshot I never found RF to be that amazing. It is extremely cheap for what it does though. With doryani you're not losing out on too much damage and can supplement RF with something like flame surge. Double cursing will also be done more often.

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kasub wrote:

Even with snapshot I never found RF to be that amazing. It is extremely cheap for what it does though. With doryani you're not losing out on too much damage and can supplement RF with something like flame surge. Double cursing will also be done more often.

maybe you don`t know that almost ALL Rf builds using EE. So flamesurge will suck hard. also loosing shitload of resistance don`t using aurumvorax or brightbeak is serious problem. u NEED to overcap very high your resistance to survive a flamability or elemental weakness curse if you are out of "remove curse on use" flasks.

Because everybody and their mother being able to solo uber atziri with this build is 100% balanced, lmfoa.

They said MONTHS ago that snapshot would eventually be fixed. It has and always will be an unintentional bug.

So anyone who is RF should have planned ahead and figured out what exactly they need to do to keep the build going without using any snapshot at all. If they didn't they only have themselves to blame and can't ask for anything from GGG.

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TaKsim wrote:

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kasub wrote:

Even with snapshot I never found RF to be that amazing. It is extremely cheap for what it does though. With doryani you're not losing out on too much damage and can supplement RF with something like flame surge. Double cursing will also be done more often.

maybe you don`t know that almost ALL Rf builds using EE. So flamesurge will suck hard. also loosing shitload of resistance don`t using aurumvorax or brightbeak is serious problem. u NEED to overcap very high your resistance to survive a flamability or elemental weakness curse if you are out of "remove curse on use" flasks.

RF builds can very easily overcap resists seeing how they use one low res unique only. If that's your whole argument against doryani then it's silly. Aurumvorax? Just how bad is your gear to use that? I only ever used that while doing a full MF summoner with double andvarius.

Yes I realize most use EE. Incorporating spells is a very valid use of RF though. Arc and flamesurge are the most popular options with RF. It usually becomes a more expensive build that focuses less on regen though. Foxtactics has an excellent one http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/896869

I'm indifferent about buffing RF. GGG has no obligation to do so just because they're fixing a basic bug that has been stated to be a bug for a long time.

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adania wrote:

They said MONTHS ago that snapshot would eventually be fixed. It has and always will be an unintentional bug.

So anyone who is RF should have planned ahead and figured out what exactly they need to do to keep the build going without using any snapshot at all. If they didn't they only have themselves to blame and can't ask for anything from GGG.

And RF players have done that. They have done it before to. This is not the first time RF builds have taken a hit.


RF will survive just fine. A few passive switches 2 gear changes and your back in buissnes. Also important to note that RF with dual curse dose about the same damage as Snapshoted RF with no curse. Food for thought.

The 1 to worriy about is the summonors. Thare are very good summon builds that are very strong without snapshoting, however they are very diffrent than the version that build around shapshoting to get it's damage.

IDK what will happen excactly but im geusing that around 20 % of the summoner builds will be fine the other 20 % will respce and re gear and be fine. But 60 % of them will be broken and will need to be totaly re-built , Prepare for a bulk of incomeing QQ threads when this change hits the servers.

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Alea wrote:

never tried RF, too much skills required to run it, snapshit and walking in mobs/fire immunity, im too much noob to play this gozu gamestyle.

Guy with 7 challenges complete saying he's too much noob.

If you're too noob then what are we lol.

BTW so what would a zero snapshot RF look like? I'm guessing the damage will decrease at least 50%?

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SirSid wrote:

Thare are very good summon builds that are very strong without snapshoting, however they are very diffrent than the version that build around shapshoting to get it's damage.

Mind giving us more details about that? :)