Man, duelist sucks
" This sums up my feelings exactly. Having to skip all those offensive nodes just to survive... not fun. Well said. |
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That's why it's called Path of Ranged Exile... and that's the main reason I said fuck this and went back to my D3 barbarian while planning me ranger build... melee is just pure crap in PoE, devs totally failed on that one 8)
IGN: Seze
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Long time i thought poe is a real revelation.
But during the many hours I played now, I recognized the stupid, simple fact, that this game has no real melees. With my lvl 50 ranger, im only dieing, dieing, dieing. I played with a friend today, hes playing a marauder. Srsly, he was doing BY FAR more dmg than me, and didnt even use melee attacks. ADDITIONALLY, he takes 3 times more what i can take from opponents, if not EVEN MORE. After that, he told me, he has 1.5k hp. I have 0.7k hp atm...... I think i dont need to mention he has more armor, resistances etc.. -.- Then he told me he has 850 dps. I have, with difficulty, a bit more than 500 dps. Then i wondered: Is this a fucking joke??? Hes a melee, who takes more dmg than me, who deals more, and additionally he isnt even a melee =_= srsly.. And I played duelist a bit too, I can only with all guys in this thread. GOD, just start and remove LIGHTNING STRIKE from the game. This skill is so absolutely, incredibly imbalanced... there are many child's sicknesses in poe, but this skill is by far, by far the biggest. I dont understand that, there was a closed beta, ggg had enough time to nerf this shit skill.. Neurotypicals are the worst thing this planet ever experienced. Last edited by Schinski#3393 on Feb 2, 2013, 4:46:47 PM
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It's not melee dps that's imbalanced...dps in quiet good actually... it's inability to deliver that melee combat thrill by absorbing incoming damage and actually letting u stay in a fight for a reasonable amount of time(i'm talking about end game content.. and not some 50-60 lvl experience, cause that ain't even close to end game)... say barb can charge into a group of mobs hacking and slashing his bloody path... and so can demon hunter... but in PoE mob damage is so big that there is no way u can just rush into end game mobs without taking 1000000++ damage in mere seconds. But there's always an option of Ground Slam and Lightning Strike, but that's not melee... they are just ranged attacks with a melee weapon 8)
IGN: Seze Last edited by _Seze_#5968 on Feb 2, 2013, 5:28:31 PM
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Thank you people for voicing out my concerns as well. I was going through the skill list and realized the supports for melee skills sucked. I was thinking of gems that could replace Lightning Strike as I wanted to be a real melee and not pretend to be ranged like what the other guy said but... no I had not found a solution so...
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" LS??? LS did get nerfed (some would call it fix, whatever), but did you ever see GODSLAM? Permastun aoe godmode, you call LS imbalanced?? If you want unbalanced skill you're looking at wrong place. One thing is true tho, neither are melee skills at all. Back on topic, yeah, cleave sucks, claws suck even more tho. Any skill that requires full melee range should outdps ranged ones by a margin imo. |
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well personally i enjoy melee play... it take more skill than standing and amshing a key...atleast on duelist it does
however when im in party i see how ridicilous range classes can be... the problem is massive aoes n sht... this game actually LAGGS when in party with all theese spammers. for duelist i feel the problem is...lack of hp and resistances.... i have to abandon the logical way of skilling up and waste points to reach some far point of the tree just to get a bit of hp and resistance which instead should be goin into my damage nodes not +10s. and even then the defense is just pathethic. cant even get 2k hp w/o goin completely out of my way.and for resistances...to get good resistances for merciless would need every single gear piece with atleast x2 res.... which is silly...especially @lv ~60. maybe at 80+ that would make sense couse then u should be having very well made pieces | |
I do want to remind people that there are still a lot of skill gems to be added to the game. This isnt me saying to not voice your opinions because the only way future gems will improve will be for us to communicate the issue. I am just letting you know that this is still the beta and there is a lot of improvement to be done. Do not give up hope :-)
IGN JimansNotSummoner
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Don't use Cleave, use Leap Slam, IMO.
You get mobility (gtfo if you need to) and true AoE. And you get to feel like a melee. It does plenty good damage, too. Leap around in triangles and projectiles don't hit, most melee mobs can barely get hits in. Only problem is that it causes the desync problem to get worse because of leaping all over the place. IGN = Warlyik
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Honestly, maybe melee Duelist suck, but I am currently lvl 59 Blood/Iron Grip Bow duelist, and I am loving it. Incredible DPS, with a life on hit gem, and the cold buff, i tear through mobs like crazy and they can't even actually get near me because they get constantly slowed or frozen. And Ranged to me at least, are incredibly easy to avoid their projectiles just by clicking to the side and than going back to shooting. I mean, I know i am not late game yet, but so far I am loving it. Maybe once I reach 70 than I'll rethink this opinion, but who knows.
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