VictorDoom's 2h Marauder, 7.7k life(no kaoms) huge dps[Uber Killed, with video] [2.0]

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VictorDoom wrote:

The thing is you dont lose 10% life leech because you will run bloodrage, which gives 10% life leech at level 20 and 20% qual, so you have the same leech but better dmg and life(even more leech if you use enhance with bloodrage)

It does require a pretty good amulet, but its worth it, you can also use some points to get dex on tree.


Well the thing about the damage is that marohi can only do so much, it pretty much tops out at around 35-40k, it is in no way BiS for a slammer, you cant really do much more than that even with amazing gear, if you want to get super high groundslam dps you pretty much have to buy a really good rare mace

Well i got a cheap Amulet to test, don't need any attributes from the tree with it, but it's got no life on it (well a bit from the STR attrib.)
I get to 6086HP with it though.

Also started using a BloodRage, seems nice so far but it needs to be re-casted if you are not so fast in killing, and i won't be able to level it past lvl11 atm (damn DEX!). Good thing is that with 45% Chaos res and 450 HP/sec regen, it does not "hurt" me at all when active!


Well you are right about the Marohi, 400DPS is great for lvl57 and such, but it's not "GG" gear. But a nice 6L >500pDPS mace can be quite expensive, can't really afford one atm...

Still day only started, and only my 3rd day back in the game ;)

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Monty_The_3rd wrote:

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VictorDoom wrote:

The thing is you dont lose 10% life leech because you will run bloodrage, which gives 10% life leech at level 20 and 20% qual, so you have the same leech but better dmg and life(even more leech if you use enhance with bloodrage)

It does require a pretty good amulet, but its worth it, you can also use some points to get dex on tree.


Well the thing about the damage is that marohi can only do so much, it pretty much tops out at around 35-40k, it is in no way BiS for a slammer, you cant really do much more than that even with amazing gear, if you want to get super high groundslam dps you pretty much have to buy a really good rare mace

Well i got a cheap Amulet to test, don't need any attributes from the tree with it, but it's got no life on it (well a bit from the STR attrib.)
I get to 6086HP with it though.

Also started using a BloodRage, seems nice so far but it needs to be re-casted if you are not so fast in killing, and i won't be able to level it past lvl11 atm (damn DEX!). Good thing is that with 45% Chaos res and 450 HP/sec regen, it does not "hurt" me at all when active!

Well you are right about the Marohi, 400DPS is great for lvl57 and such, but it's not "GG" gear. But a nice 6L >500pDPS mace can be quite expensive, can't really afford one atm...

Still day only started, and only my 3rd day back in the game ;)

Thats great, now basically you just have to get the required dex, might be hard, but you can spec 1-2 passives into it, i think its worth it since you could use level 20 haste and bloodrage.

well a 6l 600 pdps mace is like a really far plan, but its something to go for, until then the 6l marohi will do its job very well imo, youll be able to get to 35-40k dps GS on it which is still a lot and you get nice AoE too

personally i probably wouldnt even bother with a new mace, im a fan of marohi haha


What you can do to get a LOT more dps out of it is to try to run it on mana and swap BM gem for added fire, you will need mana leech on gear, but it should work

You would sacrfice haste, get 2% mana leech on gear, and use this tree.


Swap BM gem for added fire and benefit from massive amounts of dp and free GS

also, get a 20% quality concentrated effect, it reduces the mana cost even more and its necesarry


Maths for running it on mana.

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VictorDoom wrote:

Thats great, now basically you just have to get the required dex, might be hard, but you can spec 1-2 passives into it, i think its worth it since you could use level 20 haste and bloodrage.

well a 6l 600 pdps mace is like a really far plan, but its something to go for, until then the 6l marohi will do its job very well imo, youll be able to get to 35-40k dps GS on it which is still a lot and you get nice AoE too

personally i probably wouldnt even bother with a new mace, im a fan of marohi haha


What you can do to get a LOT more dps out of it is to try to run it on mana and swap BM gem for added fire, you will need mana leech on gear, but it should work

You would sacrfice haste, get 2% mana leech on ring, amulet or gloves, and use this tree.

Spoiler

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Swap BM gem for added fire and benefit from massive amounts of dp and free GS

also, get a 20% quality concentrated effect, it reduces the mana cost even more and its necesarry


Maths for running it on mana.

Spoiler

6L marohi(GS-FA-Added fire-Multistrike-Conc effect-Melee phys-AoE)
Gs cost at level 20 is 13, with this stup mana cost is 108

passives + 20% quality concentrated effect give a total of 46% reduced mana cost

End mana cost of GS is 58, you have roughly 4 attacks per second, which means the regen required is 232, but because you are using multistrike this is divided by 3

so total mana regen required is 77.

you do an avreage of 4500 physical damage per GS hit, this means that with a 2% mana leech mod on a ring you will get ~90 mana leeched back

mana leech has a cap of 12.5% of your mana pool, with the passives there your mana pool should be at around 700, which means you can leech roughly 90 mana per second.

This means that if you get 2% mana leech on a ring and use that passive tree you can switch the BM gem for added fire and gain a lot more dps.


the dps would be so good.. im acutally pondering of doing a marohi GS mara now haha

First of all thank you for the very detailed mana calcs and the tree :)

With current gear, if i switch the BM gem for my lvl19/Q20 AddFire one, i get to 40.1K DPS which is great, but skill must be 100% spam-able all the time, otherwise i would rather have 32K.

I will try to test that setup, see if the mana leech is enough to really spam the skill. I say that because i remember vaguely that when i used to run my skills from mana before, i was having issues with GS: If i "missed" on a map and hit nothing (no enemies), then i would empty my mana and don't have enough for the next attack (more so after including MultiStrike). But so many things have changed since i last played, a real test will show what's up.

I have one or two pieces of gear with Mana Leech and i can buy a couple cheap ones more to test, we will see.


BTW BloodRage works nice, 5% of phys is ~950HP/sec at 6K HP, so that is almost as close i can get to the cap (around 1200HP/sec).
Played some lvl74-75 maps in parties just fine, killed Piety in a lvl77 (with a Topaz flask ofc) without too much issues. The new Merveil at the lvl75 Necropolis is tough though (w/o any res flask), things can get hairy...

Thanks again for the help :)

Update:
Well i took some of the Mana nodes to make a quick test, and it seems to work with the current mana setup. Will probably change to the full tree (or close to that) today, if i can only get the gear i need...

If i could just buy the items i see on poe.xyz from Vendors, life would be so much easier... I could get my res gear combos right in 5 mins, now i have to see who is online, what i can buy thats close to what i need, crap...

Anyways, with 2% Mana leech and 686 Mana total, i can spam (within reason) a 80-cost GS (just tests) without any problems, i can still "waste" an attack or two to break some vases or whatever and still have mana for an attack right after, when i hit enemies i never run out of mana.

The "test" tree

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Monty_The_3rd wrote:

Update:
Well i took some of the Mana nodes to make a quick test, and it seems to work with the current mana setup. Will probably change to the full tree (or close to that) today, if i can only get the gear i need...

If i could just buy the items i see on poe.xyz from Vendors, life would be so much easier... I could get my res gear combos right in 5 mins, now i have to see who is online, what i can buy thats close to what i need, crap...

Anyways, with 2% Mana leech and 686 Mana total, i can spam (within reason) a 80-cost GS (just tests) without any problems, i can still "waste" an attack or two to break some vases or whatever and still have mana for an attack right after, when i hit enemies i never run out of mana.

The "test" tree

Looks good, its going to work even better and easier with the life +reduced mana nodes and a 20% conc effect, youre going to be able to spam it on everything even if you miss a couple of times because the mana cost will be low

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VictorDoom wrote:

Looks good, its going to work even better and easier with the life +reduced mana nodes and a 20% conc effect, youre going to be able to spam it on everything even if you miss a couple of times because the mana cost will be low

Yea it works good so far, i will test on maps later in the day. I just want to work a bit on the tree, see if i can squeeze out 4% more life if i can XD
Hopefully i will level up soon, one more point.

with fresh ring/gloves combo:

40.0K GS @96cost with non-Q lvl20 ConcEffect and lvl19/Q20 Addfire
37.7K GS @79cost with lvl10/Q20 ConcEffect
*or 34.7K @80mana with lvl20 ConcEff and 20/20 ItemQ for low maps/Docks/Dominus etc

not bad :)

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Monty_The_3rd wrote:

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VictorDoom wrote:

Looks good, its going to work even better and easier with the life +reduced mana nodes and a 20% conc effect, youre going to be able to spam it on everything even if you miss a couple of times because the mana cost will be low

Yea it works good so far, i will test on maps later in the day. I just want to work a bit on the tree, see if i can squeeze out 4% more life if i can XD
Hopefully i will level up soon, one more point.

with fresh ring/gloves combo:

40.0K GS @96cost with non-Q lvl20 ConcEffect and lvl19/Q20 Addfire
37.7K GS @79cost with lvl10/Q20 ConcEffect
*or 34.7K @80mana with lvl20 ConcEff and 20/20 ItemQ for low maps/Docks/Dominus etc

not bad :)

I would sacrifice the 4% life for sustain, you will just grab the other life nodes on your next levels anyway

what chest are you recommending for uber?
i'll have around 7500 hp with kaoms heart (6500 with belly), capped resis except chaos w/o purities (76/75/75/41) and around 45k dps on cyclone with life gain on hit and BM.

Kaom's for uber.

Also victor, how do you roll your maps for magic finding?

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VictorDoom wrote:

I would sacrifice the 4% life for sustain, you will just grab the other life nodes on your next levels anyway

You are not wrong about that, but i have been playing and not messing up with the tree so far, because everything is working fine at the moment ;)

I got boots with DEX, but then i saw that with a lvl1/Q20 Blood Rage i am already at leech cap (8% at lvl1 is 1500HP/sec and i have a ~1150 cap with my 5.9K HP). The only thing that changes after that is 0.1-0.2% less chaos dmg over time, not even worth changing gear for that IMO.

With 5.9K HP (i need another +Life ring) and 40.8K GS dmg @79mana with these gems, i can do just fine in all the maps i tried, up to lvl77, (Death and Taxes map was a bit of a pain w/o Fire and Ice flasks but i did it).

The only that really hurts is very high phys dmg (4.4K Armor isn't a lot), Reflect, and the thing that actually killed me 3-4 times: Corrupted Blood
This damn Corrupted Blood is awful, the degen stacks so you can a crazy -HP/sec and with Multistrike i can't even stop attacking immediately. Well i hope the Staunching flash will help, but seriously that one mod is the only thing that has killed me so far (and a deadly modded Piety).

I am also leveling a Vengeance gem, still not properly used because i need to change my Chest socket colors or move to boots or whatever.

Thanks again for the build man :)

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