VictorDoom's 2h Marauder, 7.7k life(no kaoms) huge dps[Uber Killed, with video] [2.0]

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unlucky_child wrote:

last questions:

1] is Blood rage needed? because im lazy to cast spells myself.
2] why no armour master? +armour, quite nice repl life 0,5%. You went so far for 1% so why not take 0,5%?

1) yes, because its your main soruce of life leech, and you dont have to cast it, it resets the timer every time you kill an enemy, i cast it once when i enter a map and it stays on until i finish.

2)Because 3 points for 0.5% life regen is not worth it, and armor is useless

The links are in this order(it HAS to be in this order to work): Cast when damage Taken-Enduring Cry-Immortall Call-Increased Duration(this gem is a support so you should level it to 20 as soon as possible)


I saw you dont have exactly as what you say. Why? :)

last dumb question.

Can i use 2x cast when damaged gems?

one with 3 others
and the others with 3 other skill gems

edit 3:

I have this theory. What about using lvl 1 Cast when damaged. This way, getting 440dmg will be easy cake, you will be almost nonstop immortal?

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unlucky_child wrote:

The links are in this order(it HAS to be in this order to work): Cast when damage Taken-Enduring Cry-Immortall Call-Increased Duration(this gem is a support so you should level it to 20 as soon as possible)


I saw you dont have exactly as what you say. Why? :)

last dumb question.

Can i use 2x cast when damaged gems?

one with 3 others
and the others with 3 other skill gems

edit 3:

I have this theory. What about using lvl 1 Cast when damaged. This way, getting 440dmg will be easy cake, you will be almost nonstop immortal?

because, obviously, the increased duration doesnt matter, its only important to have immortal call after enduring cry so it procs on full duration.

yes you can use 2x cast when damage taken, but i do not recommend using the same enduringcry-IC stup because you will die, immortall call will reset from the other CWDT and youll stop being immune.

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VictorDoom wrote:

because, obviously, the increased duration doesnt matter, its only important to have immortal call after enduring cry so it procs on full duration.

I Still dont get it. You said, best would be

CWDT, enduring cry, immortal call, increase duration
but you use (in your gear section)
...Immortal Call then Enduring cry...??

and what about my theor "using lvl 1 Cast when damaged. This way, getting 440dmg will be easy cake, you will be almost nonstop immortal even with low lvl enduring cry/immortal call?"

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unlucky_child wrote:

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VictorDoom wrote:

because, obviously, the increased duration doesnt matter, its only important to have immortal call after enduring cry so it procs on full duration.

I Still dont get it. You said, best would be

CWDT, enduring cry, immortal call, increase duration
but you use (in your gear section)
...Immortal Call then Enduring cry...??

and what about my theor "using lvl 1 Cast when damaged. This way, getting 440dmg will be easy cake, you will be almost nonstop immortal even with low lvl enduring cry/immortal call?"

its the same thing, the gems on cwdt go from the cwdt to the end, it doesnt matter in what direciton its placed as long as enduring cry is before immortall call

ic-enducry-cwdt is the same thing as cwdt-enduring cry-ic, the gems activate in the order they are placed from cwdt

It will not be non stop immortall because the gem will be very low level, meaning its going to stay on for about half a second then dissapear, also cwdt and IC both have cooldowns.

immortal call has just 0.5sec coold down, which is almost nothing.

Enduring cry 4 seconds. With lvl 1 cwdt we can have nonstop enduring cry. If immortal call is used, that would mean cca 2 seconds of immortality. So most of times fighting, we could be immortal?

Lets say 1 hit > 440 dmg in merciless. So that would trigger IC for 0.5 sec. And we get hit once per second. So that means, half of the time we are immortal?

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unlucky_child wrote:

immortal call has just 0.5sec coold down, which is almost nothing.

Enduring cry 4 seconds. With lvl 1 cwdt we can have nonstop enduring cry. If immortal call is used, that would mean cca 2 seconds of immortality. So most of times fighting, we could be immortal?

Lets say 1 hit > 440 dmg in merciless. So that would trigger IC for 0.5 sec. And we get hit once per second. So that means, half of the time we are immortal?

you can see the stast you would get here and the problems i am talking about too: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Immortal_Call

the biggest problems with level 1 cwdt setup, and why i dont use it, is because the duration is very low, you want a big duration for big hits, especially when fighting bosses, and the second problem with level 1 cwdt setup is that if you have less than 4 endu charges IC might no proc, so you can die pretty easily especially if you get rhoa rushed. Another reason is that you will die to reflect on level 1 cwdt because IC might no proc and when/if it does the duration is too low for you to get your life back, with level 20 you are reflect immune.

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VictorDoom wrote:

the biggest problems with level 1 cwdt setup, and why i dont use it, is because the duration is very low, you want a big duration for big hits, especially when fighting bosses, and the second problem with level 1 cwdt setup is that if you have less than 4 endu charges IC might no proc, so you can die pretty easily especially if you get rhoa rushed. Another reason is that you will die to reflect on level 1 cwdt because IC might no proc and when/if it does the duration is too low for you to get your life back, with level 20 you are reflect immune.

how much do I expect with higher lvl of CWDT? Now i have once per 4 seconds 2seconds of IC (in mass fight). And im on lvl 3 CWDT. Sometimes, my IC proc faster so it gives me under 1 sec of immortality, but still..

ANd sometimes it would be

2 secs of fighting..1 sec IC...1 sec fighting...1sec IC...


DO you have a video with your version of higher CWDT?

btw im lvl 70 with 4.5kdmg 4.8k life, full res, 27% reduction

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unlucky_child wrote:

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VictorDoom wrote:

the biggest problems with level 1 cwdt setup, and why i dont use it, is because the duration is very low, you want a big duration for big hits, especially when fighting bosses, and the second problem with level 1 cwdt setup is that if you have less than 4 endu charges IC might no proc, so you can die pretty easily especially if you get rhoa rushed. Another reason is that you will die to reflect on level 1 cwdt because IC might no proc and when/if it does the duration is too low for you to get your life back, with level 20 you are reflect immune.

how much do I expect with higher lvl of CWDT? Now i have once per 4 seconds 2seconds of IC (in mass fight). And im on lvl 3 CWDT. Sometimes, my IC proc faster so it gives me under 1 sec of immortality, but still..

ANd sometimes it would be

2 secs of fighting..1 sec IC...1 sec fighting...1sec IC...


DO you have a video with your version of higher CWDT?

btw im lvl 70 with 4.5kdmg 4.8k life, full res, 27% reduction

high level cwdt gives up to around 10 seconds of IC with 4 endurance charges, with 1 charge i get about 3 seconds

i dont have any videos of this char unfortunately, i might make some but currently im using an alternate version of the build for MFing

Thank you very much.

I was thinking of making a MF too. Could you add that part to the guide aswell?