Rolling offcolors too punishing
" Thank you for proving us that you have not actually read his "essay", or at least didn't understand it then. Or maybe you didn't understand my point, idk. In any case, there is either something that you did not understand, or did not read. PS : if having 1800 raw ES is suicide, then have 1979 is also suicide. PPS : +50% more ES from CI was sooo bad before the 4 months league, definitely something that makes one need a 1000+ ES chest for a CI archer lol. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jun 12, 2014, 9:52:36 AM
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" ...if your "Build" relies on using one specific item and then rolling specific colors on it (that are almost impossible to get), then there's two ways to go about it: a) "Rolling offcolors is too punishing" b) "hmmm, maybe my build is very limited" Yes, you can get 6 offcolors on an ES chest, and yes, for a non-shield-build a pure ES chest is probably the way to go. However the game in itself does not encourage that idea, to make it happen, you have to break the game by brute-forcing tenthousands of chromatics onto the item. A build that wants offcolors on all kinds of items is probably potentially very strong, no doubt about it, but it is also very hard to get there. And OP could/should have known before trying. This is masochism in its pure form. Trying to force something that can't be done, break the (almost) unbreakable. (instead of just accepting the fact that with any other torso, those colors would be possible to roll, and then trying to build in a way of "still making it work") 3.5 build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2299519
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i didn't need 6 off colors on an ES chest.
god, these people and their strawmen show me your 75+ mapping CI archers with their piddly 500 ES hybrid chests. /deaths would also be nice to see it's like people don't understand that 200+ base ES is a fucking shitload. hell, 450 base ES is the difference between solaris lorica and shavs. Last edited by Veruski#5480 on Jun 12, 2014, 10:54:09 AM
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" Do you have troubles reading ? where has anybody mentioned 200+ ES since the OP's "essay" ? Because you know ... that's not 200+ ES. The 200+Es would be between a 800 ES hybrid chest and a 1000ES regiala, and saying that one is suicide and the other one isn't would be even more ridiculous at this point. Btw, in the OP's case, what do high ES chest to do with his case ? Do you realize that the answer to that question is : "nothing" ? And now you're even bringin a Lorica/Shavronne's comparison ? What the hell seriously, can you stop completely derailing here? Speaking about strawmen .... SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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It's just an example. Hybrids can really gimp your character in a lot of situations and builds.
If you don't understand this, you probably don't have much experience playing tricky builds like that. |
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Ok, so since it looks like that you need people to state the obvious for you :
speaking about 200+ES difference means that you are comparing a well rolled pure ES chest with a not well rolled hybrid chest, unless you are speaking about values over 750~800, where 200 ES will not be a sufficient difference to go from "useless" to "good" if you know how to build a char. => " SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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no, it's comparing a well rolld hybrid (600 ES) to a well rolled pure (800 ES)
i don't see how this is even remotely unfair and yes, 200 base ES absolutely is a massive difference. i seem to have a lot more actual experience building successful characters, so =p just like 200 base HP is a massive difference you don't tell somebody running a life build that they should "just drop 200 hp from gear" or do you? i don't know man. maybe you do give advice like that. Last edited by Veruski#5480 on Jun 12, 2014, 11:53:13 AM
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OH my god what is wrong with you ?
Are you blind ? Can't you read ? Can't you understand simple words ? Are you that freaking stubborn ? " It's already not 200+ And no, you definitely don't. And if your other account ( assuming it ever existed ) was banned because you can't behave, blame yourself. you don't tell a HP build that without 200 HPs, they are nothing and can't exist. period. Now, you seem like a wall, no point talking to you, so if you keep going on that "Ouh no please I absolutely need my pure ES chest because there is absolutely no other way !!!!" ( full of flaws, of course, which has been shown ), feel free to do that alone. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jun 12, 2014, 12:04:36 PM
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" Played this character in Onslaught, 87 level with 0 deaths obviously. It is still very usable after aura changes, I've played it in HC since then. I can do 75+ maps fine (in regular hc, I'm pretty confident I could do 75+ maps in Invasion too, would have to maybe gimp my damage a bit and take some more es). I also don't even have any es on my amulet and my total es is still over 6k. Also, I understand that for example shav's ring makes a pretty big difference in terms of survivability but there are ways to work around it. If I had to choose now, I would most likely get Vaal Regalia. I think 75+ maps are still doable with a piece of shit chest piece like the one that I have. |
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" Because you have the links on your bow :) ( like I did ). One more reason why this is just a derailment at the end. Unless you'd want a single target dps on the chest, and an AOE on the bow, in this case, would you get a hybrid chest to get 5G or 4G1R ? I believe so. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jun 12, 2014, 12:09:22 PM
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