[2.0] THOR'S RAINBOWNUKE: DO ALL MAPS, UBER ATZIRI, AND EXPLOSIONS!

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Krayken wrote:

I have a question about romira's banquet, here is what is said about it on the wiki page of the unique ring :

"Gain a Power Charge on non-Critical Strike: The player gains a power charge when a skill they cast does not roll a critical strike. Because this only happens once when the ability is cast, it is not possible to receive more than 1 power charge from an attack that hits enemies multiple times."

Note the bolded part. Im not sure if it's the wording that completely confuses me but it seem like you can only get one power charge per attacks? So lets say i use molten strike + multistrike, it would only grants 3 power charges (from the first attack + the 2 additional attacks from multistrike), completely ommiting the hits landed by the projectiles.

Or am i reading it wrong and you get a power charge from every hits?

Example if i were to use molten strike + multistrike + lmp + gmp and attack once, would I get a power charge from all these hits (assuming all the projectiles were to hit)?

(1 attack + 9 projectiles) * 3 (multistrike) = 30 power charges gained from one use of the molten strike skill?

I am really confused haha.

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tackle70 wrote:

This is probably a dumb question but... any reason not to use Crown of Eyes on this build?

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Chundadragon wrote:

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tackle70 wrote:

This is probably a dumb question but... any reason not to use Crown of Eyes on this build?

not an attack damage build

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Jiaozy wrote:

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Krayken wrote:

I have a question about romira's banquet, here is what is said about it on the wiki page of the unique ring :

"Gain a Power Charge on non-Critical Strike: The player gains a power charge when a skill they cast does not roll a critical strike. Because this only happens once when the ability is cast, it is not possible to receive more than 1 power charge from an attack that hits enemies multiple times."

Note the bolded part. Im not sure if it's the wording that completely confuses me but it seem like you can only get one power charge per attacks? So lets say i use molten strike + multistrike, it would only grants 3 power charges (from the first attack + the 2 additional attacks from multistrike), completely ommiting the hits landed by the projectiles.

Or am i reading it wrong and you get a power charge from every hits?

Example if i were to use molten strike + multistrike + lmp + gmp and attack once, would I get a power charge from all these hits (assuming all the projectiles were to hit)?

(1 attack + 9 projectiles) * 3 (multistrike) = 30 power charges gained from one use of the molten strike skill?

I am really confused haha.

You gain one charge for every attack you do, so it's one charge every 3 Lightning/Molten Strike (one activation), not more.

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Krayken wrote:

Ok whats the purpose of using molten strike or lightning strike then? To cast more arc, which is only a small fraction of the dps?

And doesnt that mean that the thread starter's dps calculations are way off? He seems to compute projectiles landed when it comes to the discharge dps calculation.

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Jiaozy wrote:

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Krayken wrote:

Ok whats the purpose of using molten strike or lightning strike then? To cast more arc, which is only a small fraction of the dps?

And doesnt that mean that the thread starter's dps calculations are way off? He seems to compute projectiles landed when it comes to the discharge dps calculation.

The purpose of both Strikes is to trigger Mjölner more often, you start with a single charge off Molten/Lightning Strike, then every two hits (from every Projectiles and Chain) triggers the spells once, on average.

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Krayken wrote:

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Jiaozy wrote:

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Krayken wrote:

Ok whats the purpose of using molten strike or lightning strike then? To cast more arc, which is only a small fraction of the dps?

And doesnt that mean that the thread starter's dps calculations are way off? He seems to compute projectiles landed when it comes to the discharge dps calculation.

The purpose of both Strikes is to trigger Mjölner more often, you start with a single charge off Molten/Lightning Strike, then every two hits (from every Projectiles and Chain) triggers the spells once, on average.

Oh i get it now : arc's hits also trigger romira's thus feeding you with more charges. Thats pretty clever haha :D

Ok here's an idea you guys tell me if it could means more dps (for a life budget version of the build) :

1. Remove iron will from mjolner and use another Arc instead (yeah we lose like 80% increased spell damage but 1 more arc almost doubles the amount of charges gained right?).

2. In the chest armor, remove the curse on hit setup and cast the curse manually (can even use enhance for even more resistance reduction)

3. Now that you have 2 more links in your 6l setup, use the following gems :

Molten strike, LMP, GMP, faster attacks, multistrike, life gain on hit.

4. That would be a potential of 30 hits every times you press molten strike : (first attack + 2 additional attacks from multistrike), all of them creating 9 projectiles. With 2 arcs at 50% chance to proc (via mjolner) that means a potential of 30 arcs every times molten strike is pressed. So if all the projectiles lands, that would mean a total of 33 charges every times molten strike is used. That sure would translate in a shit ton of dps from discharge (and the arcs themselves) and the life gain on hit would trigger at best 30 per molten strikes uses (30 * 45 HP) = 1350 HP per use.

Would this work well for a budget life version?

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SurfingJesus wrote:

hm...
I'm playing the Life based version myself right now .. lets see if i can clear something up.

1) Yes more arc, but it's close to 90% Spelldmg you're losing, making your discharge alot weaker.

2) im useing a 5l atm, tried LMP, GMP .. and i can't sustain the mana costs (you only have around 200 unreserved mana)

4) im running life gain on hit + MS when im in maps where im not "allowed" to discharge (double arc + iron will) .. you dont leech enough with only Arc. so i can at least tell you that you heal alot with it but you're far away from dealing good dmg.