[2.0] THOR'S RAINBOWNUKE: DO ALL MAPS, UBER ATZIRI, AND EXPLOSIONS!

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Jiaozy wrote:

Low Life Wander can do Uber, this build can't because it lacks the defenses.

This is just a glass cannon build, while Spectral Throw and Wander have other means of defense beside huge damage output, like Iron Reflexes + Grace and Arctic Armor.


I'll have to disagree with you on this one. I don't think this is a glass cannon build, it can reach 7k+ es very easily, if dropping haste.

In most cases(you attacking enemy not blocking), we almost always have 3 endurance charges, you can cast IC manually to maintain permanent physical immunity if you want, though i don't think taking one hit and trigger IC from cwdt is too much different unless in ubber trio case.

elemental resistances are also high (96/86/86) without using any flasks.


Also, low life wander can do Uber, but may still die even with extremely expensive gear(mirrored wand, shield, both rings and amulet).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmVRl3v8VA8&feature=youtu.be
(kaiserin ubber atziri video)
--the lightning almost 1 shotted him(9200es), which shows the amount of ES you have is very important. You'll need enough ES so you can at least take some hits then leech back. imo if you're feeling glass cannon you should just get more ES and it should be fine.


How are you sustaining RF? I have them same amount of life regen and gear and as soon as I pop it my life/shield just disappears.....
Last edited by wired_wicked#5579 on Jul 12, 2014, 7:21:01 PM
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CeaselessDC wrote:
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Jiaozy wrote:

Low Life Wander can do Uber, this build can't because it lacks the defenses.

This is just a glass cannon build, while Spectral Throw and Wander have other means of defense beside huge damage output, like Iron Reflexes + Grace and Arctic Armor.


I'll have to disagree with you on this one. I don't think this is a glass cannon build, it can reach 7k+ es very easily, if dropping haste.

In most cases(you attacking enemy not blocking), we almost always have 3 endurance charges, you can cast IC manually to maintain permanent physical immunity if you want, though i don't think taking one hit and trigger IC from cwdt is too much different unless in ubber trio case.

elemental resistances are also high (96/86/86) without using any flasks.


Also, low life wander can do Uber, but may still die even with extremely expensive gear(mirrored wand, shield, both rings and amulet).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmVRl3v8VA8&feature=youtu.be
(kaiserin ubber atziri video)
--the lightning almost 1 shotted him(9200es), which shows the amount of ES you have is very important. You'll need enough ES so you can at least take some hits then leech back. imo if you're feeling glass cannon you should just get more ES and it should be fine.
A decent ES pool isn't = tanky.

You just have a decent ES pool and that's it, this build doesn't run any kind of defense, no IR+Grace, no high Evasion + Dodge, no Block, no Arctic Armour, no Lightning Coil + PoL, nothing even remotely close to some kind of defensive mechanic.

It just relies on high DPS and ES pool to leech back the damage you take and that's not what tanky means.
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wired_wicked wrote:
How are you sustaining RF? I have them same amount of life regen and gear and as soon as I pop it my life/shield just disappears.....
Are you using a lvl 20 Purity of Fire?
Are you using Rise of the Phoenix?
Do you have at least 75% aura effects?
In the end, what is your Fire Resistance?

If you have any less than 90% fire resistance then it's normal for your life/ES to get destroyed by RF.
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Jiaozy - Jiaozy[something]
Last edited by Jiaozy#1490 on Jul 13, 2014, 8:06:22 AM
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Earthslug wrote:
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Hizbas wrote:


On a side note, we were able to move righteous fire out of gear swap and place it into our main gear, generally where you keep your blood rage. Refer back to goat4dinner's gear to see this.



Why would you do that?

Spoiler
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those 2 gearpieces give me 254% increased dmg on RF with my current strength numbers


In patch 1.2 you won't be able to weapon swap (that's the rumour) your righteous fire. As a result you will have to move it to your main gear.
Last edited by Hizbas#6915 on Jul 13, 2014, 9:23:43 AM
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Hizbas wrote:
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Earthslug wrote:
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Hizbas wrote:


On a side note, we were able to move righteous fire out of gear swap and place it into our main gear, generally where you keep your blood rage. Refer back to goat4dinner's gear to see this.



Why would you do that?

Spoiler
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those 2 gearpieces give me 254% increased dmg on RF with my current strength numbers


In patch 1.2 you won't be able to weapon swap (that's the rumour) your righteous fire. As a result you will have to move it to your main gear.

I think you would be able to cast but it will revert back to stats according to your gear.
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Hizbas wrote:


In patch 1.2 you won't be able to weapon swap (that's the rumour) your righteous fire. As a result you will have to move it to your main gear.


Ow if that's the case... guess I'll be dropping out clarity then.


GGG will probably destroy this entire build. By putting a 750msec delay on discharge and trigger mjolner lightning spells 1/20 instead of 1/2.

Smells like re-installing minecraft then.



I always opposed snapshotting but using your offhand is something your char carries with him.


Oh we'll see...
Vorici can shove his fuse up his [removed]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjzKPITtgmU

maybe after watching this you'll change your mind about permanent IC. It is one of the best phy defense mechanic, especially for us who ALWAYS have 3 endurance charge when fighting bosses, without even using endurance cry.
Is it okay to just use rathpith globe instead of going with those hp regen nodes and using rf?
IGN:WitchSummonerz
It's okay but you loose much dps especially vs big bosses since you loose the burning dmg and the spell dmg from RF.
On the other side you gain ES and have more regen..but you also use the extra fire res from Phoenix shield.
I use that shield on maps where i can't run RF due to mods
Last edited by manu91xd#0324 on Jul 14, 2014, 12:28:27 PM
What are the chances this build gets nerfed? Either items involved or proc mechanics or the tree itself?

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