Seniar's Perma Freeze build guide

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Ceveth wrote:

Would using a Kaom's Heart/Belly of the Beast & Taryn's Shiver work as well? You'd be even more tanky and could use the staff for your 5/6L. You'd also be able to provide a bit more support for your team because of the "Enemies Frozen by you take 20% increased Damage" on Taryn's Shiver.

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endoreggaton wrote:

I've tried belly, didn't try kaoms tho. I still think cloak of defiance is the #1 choice because mind of matter simply makes it impossible to get 1 or 2 shot. I've tried taryns but it's not really worth; you can't make use of the cast speed, the spell dmg roll is low and it's simply overkill. With my second freeze mine detonation i can already freeze stuff for atleast 5 seconds or so. If you wanted to go with staff and im considering starting to craft 1 just for the lolz, a staff with high spell, cold dmg and +2 to cold gems would be your choice. But i still think having a shield is the better option, no need for extra damage from staff and as I said in my guide, you want to be tanky.

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Ceveth wrote:

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endoreggaton wrote:

I've tried belly, didn't try kaoms tho. I still think cloak of defiance is the #1 choice because mind of matter simply makes it impossible to get 1 or 2 shot. I've tried taryns but it's not really worth; you can't make use of the cast speed, the spell dmg roll is low and it's simply overkill. With my second freeze mine detonation i can already freeze stuff for atleast 5 seconds or so. If you wanted to go with staff and im considering starting to craft 1 just for the lolz, a staff with high spell, cold dmg and +2 to cold gems would be your choice. But i still think having a shield is the better option, no need for extra damage from staff and as I said in my guide, you want to be tanky.

Thanks for the reply!
Do you think it's viable at all to start as a Templar?

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endoreggaton wrote:

No not really to be honest. Your passive tree doesnt proveide tankiness at all, this build needs MoM. Also by getting acrobatics you get 50% less energy which is 50% less mana and you won't be able to sustain your freeze mine or curses.Your build leaves you with more ele nodes, half of the mana you could get by using one of my builds, no tankiness because you neither have MoM which is crucial to surviving high amounts of burst. The 3 Keystones EB,IR and MoM are a must for this build. You should just trust me and go with one of the 2 i linked i tried out witch shadow templar and scion and which is definately the best in my opnionion, shadow is nearly as good as witch, scion is still ok and templar just bad because you spend way too many points to get to the nodes you really need!

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Ceveth wrote:

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endoreggaton wrote:

No not really to be honest. Your passive tree doesnt proveide tankiness at all, this build needs MoM. Also by getting acrobatics you get 50% less energy which is 50% less mana and you won't be able to sustain your freeze mine or curses.Your build leaves you with more ele nodes, half of the mana you could get by using one of my builds, no tankiness because you neither have MoM which is crucial to surviving high amounts of burst. The 3 Keystones EB,IR and MoM are a must for this build. You should just trust me and go with one of the 2 i linked i tried out witch shadow templar and scion and which is definately the best in my opnionion, shadow is nearly as good as witch, scion is still ok and templar just bad because you spend way too many points to get to the nodes you really need!

That's a good point, though obviously it goes without saying you would use the MoM chest because you don't get the Keystone. The chest & Keystone don't stack.

So you still get MoM & Acrobatics (which is 50% ES-based mana, not actual mana), and like you said in your main post you're only running two auras so you still have plenty of mana to pad MoM.

I think you're right about taking Acrobatics being a bad idea, though. I don't really see a way to get down to IR the Templar starting area and was wondering if you had any ideas for an alternate to IR?

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Ceveth wrote:

Does Added Cold Damage even work with Freeze Mine?

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Moose65 wrote:

I've just now added Freeze mine to my support build ( had to drop from 11 to 10 Auras :( ) and I'm enjoying it so far. I can even freeze rares without trash around after dropping ele weakness/temp chains/frostbite.

Anyways, my question is, what is the optimum sixth gem for Freeze Mine? I"m guessing Empower, but is there a better choice if you have a 6L?