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moon_nmh wrote:
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DavorMarin wrote:

Well it is not exploit, however snapshotting is really big problem. No sign of nerf so far.

Saffell's Frame: Block Chance Applied to Spells has been reduced from 100-120 to 70-80. All Maximum Resistance has been reduced from 5% to 4%.
Elemental Adaptation has been moved to between the Witch and Templar.

This sounds like a nerf to this build. Looks like Rise of the Phoenix will be necessary for running Righteous Fire and you'll have to spend more points getting Elemental Adaptation or start as a Templar.

You're forgetting that our items won't just change on their own. We will still have out fully functional Saffell's that are legacy and they will still be able to be bought for a long time as well. The tree is being changed but that doesn't mean the build will turn to shit. I still see it being very good. Also notice that in the video, he doesn't run RF all the time anyways.


Yeah I forgot to say I'll probably play this build in Ambush league, so no legacy items for me. Ofc build won't be shit with Marauder, but I think it will maybe be stronger on Templar, however I need to wait for full passive tree reveal to theoritize passive tree from Templar and Marauder starting point.
Guys, I have good news the nerf to Saffel won't change anything at all. Currently I am running this more damaging version:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAdwCcQSzBS0MXwx9DPcQfxLhFVAY2xkuG_ofAiFgJd8n1SftKPosnC0fNZI2xTbYPC1AoEGHRKtFnUd-UFBUSVWuWGNfP2BLYSFlTWh0bRluaXTtdPF4DXqqeu-CHoLHhNmE74gbiPGMz4-mlKCa4KIApBmnCKluq8WsWa1Kr2y18rc-uJO53b6KvqfB88RYxLjE9sWKxp7GrsbYzSbUj9X42CTaYtsL4urnUudj6dXr7uxV7w7vhfAf8932SPno_gqcLYdlr7dJGw==

As you can see, I am running 'Inner Force'. Which allow righteous fire to burn me for 21% more, in exchange I get 13% more spell damage and aura effect increase. That includes vitality.

Also, I am currently not running lvl 23 Righteous fire and vitality, which gives me 5% max resis. Once I do, it will be the same as it is now.

I will update the tree tomorrow when the patch is out. The reason I use saffel instead of Rise of the phoenix, is because of the spell block and max resis which helps against lightning thorns and other added elemental damage map mods nasties.
Last edited by klerace#5333 on Mar 4, 2014, 6:11:36 AM
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klerace wrote:
Guys, I have good news the nerf to Saffel won't change anything at all. Currently I am running this more damaging version:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAdwCcQSzBS0MXwx9DPcQfxLhFVAY2xkuG_ofAiFgJd8n1SftKPosnC0fNZI2xTbYPC1AoEGHRKtFnUd-UFBUSVWuWGNfP2BLYSFlTWh0bRluaXTtdPF4DXqqeu-CHoLHhNmE74gbiPGMz4-mlKCa4KIApBmnCKluq8WsWa1Kr2y18rc-uJO53b6KvqfB88RYxLjE9sWKxp7GrsbYzSbUj9X42CTaYtsL4urnUudj6dXr7uxV7w7vhfAf8932SPno_gqcLYdlr7dJGw==

As you can see, I am running 'Inner Force'. Which allow righteous fire to burn me for 21% more, in exchange I get 13% more spell damage and aura effect increase. That includes vitality.

Also, I am currently not running lvl 23 Righteous fire and vitality, which gives me 5% max resis. Once I do, it will be the same as it is now.

I will update the tree tomorrow when the patch is out. The reason I use saffel instead of Rise of the phoenix, is because of the spell block and max resis which helps against lightning thorns and other added elemental damage map mods nasties.


This setup will be even better with new patch because due to this:
"Most spell damage, elemental damage and specific elemental damage passives have been improved."

I'm really excited about new patch and finally trying this build, looks like really effective build and so much more fun than pure RF build.
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DavorMarin wrote:
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klerace wrote:
Guys, I have good news the nerf to Saffel won't change anything at all. Currently I am running this more damaging version:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAdwCcQSzBS0MXwx9DPcQfxLhFVAY2xkuG_ofAiFgJd8n1SftKPosnC0fNZI2xTbYPC1AoEGHRKtFnUd-UFBUSVWuWGNfP2BLYSFlTWh0bRluaXTtdPF4DXqqeu-CHoLHhNmE74gbiPGMz4-mlKCa4KIApBmnCKluq8WsWa1Kr2y18rc-uJO53b6KvqfB88RYxLjE9sWKxp7GrsbYzSbUj9X42CTaYtsL4urnUudj6dXr7uxV7w7vhfAf8932SPno_gqcLYdlr7dJGw==

As you can see, I am running 'Inner Force'. Which allow righteous fire to burn me for 21% more, in exchange I get 13% more spell damage and aura effect increase. That includes vitality.

Also, I am currently not running lvl 23 Righteous fire and vitality, which gives me 5% max resis. Once I do, it will be the same as it is now.

I will update the tree tomorrow when the patch is out. The reason I use saffel instead of Rise of the phoenix, is because of the spell block and max resis which helps against lightning thorns and other added elemental damage map mods nasties.


This setup will be even better with new patch because due to this:
"Most spell damage, elemental damage and specific elemental damage passives have been improved."

I'm really excited about new patch and finally trying this build, looks like really effective build and so much more fun than pure RF build.


Pure rf build are boring and tedious as fuck, they can't do all map mods and are weak survivors. From the changes to Saffel, it seems that alpha's howl + while socket + empower are mandatory if going inner force.
Im sold
Cant wait for the templar version
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klerace wrote:
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DavorMarin wrote:
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klerace wrote:
Guys, I have good news the nerf to Saffel won't change anything at all. Currently I am running this more damaging version:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAAdwCcQSzBS0MXwx9DPcQfxLhFVAY2xkuG_ofAiFgJd8n1SftKPosnC0fNZI2xTbYPC1AoEGHRKtFnUd-UFBUSVWuWGNfP2BLYSFlTWh0bRluaXTtdPF4DXqqeu-CHoLHhNmE74gbiPGMz4-mlKCa4KIApBmnCKluq8WsWa1Kr2y18rc-uJO53b6KvqfB88RYxLjE9sWKxp7GrsbYzSbUj9X42CTaYtsL4urnUudj6dXr7uxV7w7vhfAf8932SPno_gqcLYdlr7dJGw==

As you can see, I am running 'Inner Force'. Which allow righteous fire to burn me for 21% more, in exchange I get 13% more spell damage and aura effect increase. That includes vitality.

Also, I am currently not running lvl 23 Righteous fire and vitality, which gives me 5% max resis. Once I do, it will be the same as it is now.

I will update the tree tomorrow when the patch is out. The reason I use saffel instead of Rise of the phoenix, is because of the spell block and max resis which helps against lightning thorns and other added elemental damage map mods nasties.


This setup will be even better with new patch because due to this:
"Most spell damage, elemental damage and specific elemental damage passives have been improved."

I'm really excited about new patch and finally trying this build, looks like really effective build and so much more fun than pure RF build.


Pure rf build are boring and tedious as fuck, they can't do all map mods and are weak survivors. From the changes to Saffel, it seems that alpha's howl + while socket + empower are mandatory if going inner force.


Will you be able to run RF 24/7 though? And if you get an Alpha's i don't think you can pick which socket turns white, if you use a vaal orb on it. Then if it does fuck up you also won't be able to change the item again since it will be locked from the vaal orb. Idk man.
I can run RF + Inner force with only 4% of purity of fire no prob with only slight degeneration. Worst case scenario is using rise of the phoenix which is inferior to saffel.

Item gets can only be used with vaal orbs after having used vaal orb on it. As you can see in prismatic ellipse weapon, it has 3 white sockets.

BTW, do you want to duel me to test it? I am online atm. My IGN is RebirthByIgnition. I will afk for a while
Last edited by klerace#5333 on Mar 5, 2014, 12:59:49 AM
why would you run Inner force? I thought it didn't increase the damage to others since the degen is a "debuff" on them not a buff on you?
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Zeddekus wrote:
why would you run Inner force? I thought it didn't increase the damage to others since the degen is a "debuff" on them not a buff on you?


I run Inner Force + Holy Strength 14% MORE spell damage from righteous fire totaling near 75% MORE spell damage. Plus increased Auras effect + immortal call. With the marauder tree buff, this build is now stronger than ever!
Last edited by klerace#5333 on Mar 5, 2014, 4:04:19 AM
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klerace wrote:
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Zeddekus wrote:
why would you run Inner force? I thought it didn't increase the damage to others since the degen is a "debuff" on them not a buff on you?


I run Inner Force + Holy Strength 14% MORE spell damage from righteous fire totaling near 75% MORE spell damage. Plus increased Auras effect + immortal call. With the marauder tree buff, this build is now stronger than ever!


2% more max fire resist GG.
Last edited by DavorMarin#1258 on Mar 5, 2014, 4:25:17 AM

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