[2.2] Hybrid Synergiser Wander

The new confirmed snapshot nerf/bugfix does not affect us!

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Skyforth wrote:

The new confirmed snapshot nerf/bugfix does not affect us!

Unless you were abusing it to shore up your resists cause you have sub par gear =(. Gunna miss the +maxres either way.

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Skyforth wrote:

The new confirmed snapshot nerf/bugfix does not affect us!

Really? But you have a whole snapshot section in your guide, and where you mention specifically that you use snapshotting for Atziri:

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Aura Snapshotting
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Low life + extra snapshotting auras.

Welp

Yep you can use this. I can snapshot 9 Auras with 246 unreserved mana left over. I only use this for Atziri. Usually just blood magic + 2 60% and drop the 3 40% (purities.)

60-60-40-40-40 on life with mask or chest. 60-60-60-Clarity on mana.

I also like how you show Arctic Armor tanking some white mobs consisting of skeletons and ladybugs.

This is just another insanely expensive low-life aura stacking "build" that can be done with many other skills like spectral throw, power siphon, wind ripper, etc. Defenses are REALLY lacking though - like the other builds you rely on extremely expensive items so you can DPS without taking too much damage. It works fine for you with mirrored items at level 90+, but the average guy trying this "build" with mediocre gear gets wrecked in high level maps. Especially if you are relying on lightning warp for movement/escape skill. Because lets face it - if you are not leeching and doing damage, you are dying..

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Wishuponastar wrote:

This is just another insanely expensive low-life aura stacking "build" that can be done with many other skills like spectral throw, power siphon, wind ripper, etc.

First off, this isn't just "another" lowlife build. I had my build here long before the other now predominant lowlife builds.

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Wishuponastar wrote:

Really? But you have a whole snapshot section in your guide, and where you mention specifically that you use snapshotting for Atziri:

I never snapshot when mapping, I only snapshotted for Atziri/Uber Atziri. I put the snapshot guide in because people were asking about it, not because i use it.

Perhaps if you have the intelligence to read through the thread, or perhaps watch the video at the top of the guide where i run through a map, you can see i don't snapshot. Even the thread title says. "NO SNAPSHOT".

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Wishuponastar wrote:

Defenses are REALLY lacking though - like the other builds you rely on extremely expensive items so you can DPS without taking too much damage. It works fine for you with mirrored items at level 90+, but the average guy trying this "build" with mediocre gear gets wrecked in high level maps.

Defenses are no where near lacking. You might be playing a different game to me, but with 11k armour, level 20 (yes I'm only using level 20) Arctic Armour, i take 0 physical reflect and 0 fire reflect.

Arctic Armour is used as a defensive mechanic against reflect, most monsters shouldn't even touch you anyway.

Perhaps if you read the guide, you would have known. (In depth analysis section)

If you even bother to check out the thread before commenting, you can see that many people have done extremely well, on new leagues as well, without godlike gear. Feedback is great, with many having great success despite your judgement.

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Wishuponastar wrote:

Especially if you are relying on lightning warp for movement/escape skill. Because lets face it - if you are not leeching and doing damage, you are dying..

..............lol

For one, I don't use lightning warp. Should read the guide first. And secondly, your quote clearly shows how you have never played a lowlife build before, as I don't "Die" if i am not leeching. I lose 1.5k es max (out of 7k+) to blood rage, and only an idiot would stand still in the middle of mobs and do nothing. But hey, i guess that's what you learned right?

Perhaps it's better that the uneducated, or in your case misinformed, read before posting. Maybe even thinking before posting would be a better idea.

Haste, no RF, no snapshot

Sure. But why do you say SNAPSHOT DOES NOT AFFECT US! Yet you mention you use snapshot for Atziri and then you have a whole section for snapshotting? Please post video of uber Atziri since you mention "I only snapshotted for Atziri/Uber Atziri", maybe I missed the vid somewhere in your guide but I didn't see an Uber Atziri link.

I also like how your idea of "ultimate synergy" is basically just buffs on auras. That's pretty ultimate.

That Arctic Armor gif where you tank some white skeletons and ladybugs is really impressive! But your 11K armor doesnt' count for sht against heavy physical damage. I've played armor before so stop with the BS. The only reason it doesn't matter for you in most cases is because you have mirrored items to destroy mobs before they even get close. But when you are up against heavy physical bosses with high HP - you get wrecked - check the Atziri video against the trio of bosses. A'alai's physical damage is cutting through your armor as if you were naked. I would like to see you do the Vaal Temple level 79 map - which you should be able to do given the cost of all your gear, but you will most definitely have problems with the bosses.

I've played low life before. If you are in a fight and you are not leeching or you get rushed by mobs and desync - you die. Your "defense" is from your leech and DPS. If you are not leeching or DPS'ing in a fight - you are dying because you are certainly taking damage. Basic math son =).

Anyway, why would anyone do this build vs. something like Fyndel's low-life spectral throw that can get way higher damage (= higher survivability) and better mobility with whirling blades?

Peace out.

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Wishuponastar wrote:

Sure. But why do you say SNAPSHOT DOES NOT AFFECT US! Yet you mention you use snapshot for Atziri and then you have a whole section for snapshotting? Please post video of uber Atziri since you mention "I only snapshotted for Atziri/Uber Atziri", maybe I missed the vid somewhere in your guide but I didn't see an Uber Atziri link.

I also like how your idea of "ultimate synergy" is basically just buffs on auras. That's pretty ultimate.

That Arctic Armor gif where you tank some white skeletons and ladybugs is really impressive! But your 11K armor doesnt' count for sht against heavy physical damage. I've played armor before so stop with the BS. The only reason it doesn't matter for you in most cases is because you have mirrored items to destroy mobs before they even get close. But when you are up against heavy physical bosses with high HP - you get wrecked - check the Atziri video against the trio of bosses. A'alai's physical damage is cutting through your armor as if you were naked. I would like to see you do the Vaal Temple level 79 map - which you should be able to do given the cost of all your gear, but you will most definitely have problems with the bosses.

I've played low life before. If you are in a fight and you are not leeching or you get rushed by mobs and desync - you die. Your "defense" is from your leech and DPS. If you are not leeching or DPS'ing in a fight - you are dying because you are certainly taking damage. Basic math son =).

Anyway, why would anyone do this build vs. something like Fyndel's low-life spectral throw that can get way higher damage (= higher survivability) and better mobility with whirling blades?

Peace out.

I managed to get an attempt at uber atziri but i only had 1 portal after killing the triple bosses. And yes, i was snapshotting for that.

My Aura buffs and aura stacking was here long before others picked up the same idea and became FOTM.

Snapshot clearly doesn't affect the build when i don't even snapshot to play. If you were to run Fyndel's current build (who got the idea of stacking auras from me), you must rely on snapshotting.

I can run around in 78 palace maps facetanking mobs without any issues. Any super heavy physical damage shreds all armour, no need to come reinstate that here. You could have 50k armour and still get shredded by Aalai.

Daggers are strong, there's no doubt about it and for bossing there's greater potential there. If you want to play a build which relies on snapshot, then be my guest. Afterall, it's just a dagger variant of my original tree pre 1.1

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Wishuponastar wrote:

That Arctic Armor gif where you tank some white skeletons and ladybugs is really impressive! But your 11K armor doesnt' count for sht against heavy physical damage. I've played armor before so stop with the BS. The only reason it doesn't matter for you in most cases is because you have mirrored items to destroy mobs before they even get close. But when you are up against heavy physical bosses with high HP - you get wrecked - check the Atziri video against the trio of bosses. A'alai's physical damage is cutting through your armor as if you were naked. I would like to see you do the Vaal Temple level 79 map - which you should be able to do given the cost of all your gear, but you will most definitely have problems with the bosses.

Sorry but I had to post after reading this bullshit, I read in your past comments on threads

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Wishuponastar wrote:

Ever heard of endurance charges and immortal call? You don't even need armor these days when it is so easy to run around with permanent immortal call to negate physical attack AND spell physical damage.

The retard is strong in this one.

Thanks for posting Chunda. Maybe you are just as retarded as me, if not please point me to his build where he is using endurance charges and immortal call? Can you do that? .....


Didn't think so. He doesn't even mention Immortal Call.

He is relying on granites and arctic armor which is pretty fail against heavy physical bosses when you are not focused on armor in the tree. If he changed to using endurance charges and immortal call that would be different - but he is NOT even using this and does not even spec this, so thank you for your very clever, insightful, but sadly immature and irrelevant post.

Again I'm just stating facts - look at his Atziri video vs. A'alai - armor is basically useless on this build when you need it the most. This is easy to see, unless you are too blind to realize or just in a fan bubble that you fail to acknowledge that 350ex+ of equipment in this build still struggles against basic Atziri run.

Still waiting on the Uber Atziri (which he claims he has done with snapshot) and Level 79 Vaal Temple map vids.

EDIT: I now see his post about not being able to finish this Uber Atziri at the trio-bosses where he used all portals. That's exactly what I mean when I say that your armor on this build is useless at 11K. I've played a barrage build like this so I know pretty darn well what happened - you cannot do the melee bosses last because they are too fast when buffed and you cannot avoid them while DPSing, that's why you do them first. A'alai however when buffed last has high physical damage which shreds 11K armor as if you had nothing.

Arctic Armor and ~11K armor sounds nice and all but is really useless on this build. You don't need it vs. white trash mobs that you destroy easily, but at the same time it gives you extremely poor mitigation when you really need it.

This goes back to my point that your DPS and leech is your survivability in this build - if you can't DPS enough (i.e. have average gear) or outleech - you are dying.

Pretty sure you CANNOT do Level 79 Vaal Temple map either because of the above reasons + you have no movement skill. If you switched to spec throw and used dagger with this build you would probably have better results vs. Uber Atziri - and would not need immortal call since you can DPS while still moving - but that would just become Fyndel's or Havoc's build.

Instead of hating on me you guys should be thinking about how to make this build stronger.

There are many builds that can run around face tanking 78 palace, but right now the COST of this build vs. what it can achieve is just too poor vs. other low life aura builds. If you were spending mirrors and hundreds of exalts on low life you have other builds that can take you much further.

Wander build has done uber fight before, I think the same modifications Flubby used for his build can easy be used for this build to cheese the final fight with 99% fire and lightning, the only problem is dodging large flameblasts which is of course a known problem with wanders - the inferior mobility skills available (Warp compared to Whirling Blades/Leap Slam). However, what do you suggest to do about that short of inventing a new skill?

For the second set of bosses, you would be silly not to use EC and IC, run around and generate charges, have 5 seconds of free DPS, rinse and repeat. This has been done with LL Spectral on Uber with no deaths, once you have charges, cast Blood Rage, DPS and run around for ES to regen. Same thing can be done.

Only challenge I think is Double Vaal however the high DPS this build achieves would be able to melt Vaal before too much happens.

I think you are overestimating spectral's ability to "do dps whilst moving", I play low-life spectral myself and have killed Atziri and am currently preparing for Uber, whilst the spec is far more mobile I don't see myself casting Spectral Throw whilst I'm using Whirling Blades. A skilled user of Warp could feasibly the same.

None of the fights in Uber actually need armour - just smart preparation.

Also, if you are wondering about the pros and cons of this build vs. low-life spectral, I'll tell you straight up, this build clears maps a lot faster.