[1.1.0] Endgame Incinerate Totem Guide w Videos (Level 91, 57k dps, 8.6k life, 187/116 IIR/IIQ)

nah, I've tried both, 6link incinerate and 6link flame totem and flame totem is far superior. I kill things in an instant whereas incinerates takes a little bit to charge up. They both kill pretty fast but flame totems can be built for crit and shock stacks.

With your current passives, incinerate would outperform flame totems but you can make flame totems much better with a build that is built specifically for it :p

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AnaVite wrote:

nah, I've tried both, 6link incinerate and 6link flame totem and flame totem is far superior. I kill things in an instant whereas incinerates takes a little bit to charge up. They both kill pretty fast but flame totems can be built for crit and shock stacks.

With your current passives, incinerate would outperform flame totems but you can make flame totems much better with a build that is built specifically for it :p

What are you critting that you can actually shock? Because it isn't bosses, from the wiki on shocking:

"If the duration would be less than 300 milliseconds, the shock effect is not applied."

In other words, if you're not doing at least 1% of enemy health with each hit (which you won't be), you don't shock anything.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shock

Well. I just did a piety run but I can't tell if I'm shocking her but I killed her in seconds.. would have been like 3-5 secs if she didn't teleport. I do know that I shock all white, blue, and rare mobs.

Hello, i recently started playing your build and I'm really enjoying it but I've few questions, especially after the latest patch nerfs:
1) Do you think that flame totems are worse than incinerate totems in terms of damage?
2) Are totem builds still worth playing after the attack and cast speed nerf?
3) Would you put iir in a 6l instead of some other gem you're currently running with?
4) In case it is still worth playing, How would you update the equipment and the current passive tree for this build?
5) How do you deal with lightning thorns?

Thanks in advance for your help! :)

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Fratgiolo wrote:

Hello, i recently started playing your build and I'm really enjoying it but I've few questions, especially after the latest patch nerfs:
1) Do you think that flame totems are worse than incinerate totems in terms of damage?
2) Are totem builds still worth playing after the attack and cast speed nerf?
3) Would you put iir in a 6l instead of some other gem you're currently running with?
4) In case it is still worth playing, How would you update the equipment and the current passive tree for this build?
5) How do you deal with lightning thorns?

Thanks in advance for your help! :)

1. Yes, but I'm still testing.
2. Yes, because they're one of the only builds which can keep distance, stay moving and deal damage all at the same time.
3. I run IIQ at all times in my 6L. Other people run damage. The way I see it, if I get more out of the formula Added IIQ/100+my IIQ than I do out of the formula added damage/damage before, then the IIQ gain outweighs the dps gain (we want items as our end goal, after all).
4. I intend on updating it later this week. Check back this weekend some time.
5. A number of ways - first, I use traps, second I try to keep caster frozen (this is why cold snap trap is desirable), third using frost walls to isolate a group (e.g. casters or melee instead of both) if traps prove ineffective. If I wasn't using Kaom's, I'd likely keep a 5-6 linked dps trap for dealing with them, and/or summons.

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AnaVite wrote:

Well. I just did a piety run but I can't tell if I'm shocking her but I killed her in seconds.. would have been like 3-5 secs if she didn't teleport. I do know that I shock all white, blue, and rare mobs.

Um... what does your passive tree look like? Do you have some crazy amount of shock duration?

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUAAuMFWwelDkgPxBEtES8RlhZAFr8W8yY8J6kpTyoTLJwspy0fL50y0Tt8O-E8BT1fQ2NFR0bXSbJMs1AwUlNVrlj1WfNaK13GXfJeXV76YG1jQ2aebRlwUnDVcU1713yDf8aFfYhCiGuLjI6-j6aP-peVl_Saz52jncSf36Kjo_KnK6eUtQS297cxuJO4yrvWwBrAUcHFwfPDbc360f3d8-Fz4vfjhOQi7BjtIO988h3z6vyr

It's not optimized for flame totem since I was going for crit low life storm call but that was a bit lackluster. with better gear and more nodes into damage+survivability, I'd end up with 4.5-5k+ ES max resists and probably around 7k flame totem dps with MF gear and much higher with dps gems. Flame totem tends to crit a lot even with 22 percent crit chance and it is much easier to shotgun than incinerate which obliterates most mobs in one hit and sometimes bosses if you crit and shotgun.

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AnaVite wrote:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUAAuMFWwelDkgPxBEtES8RlhZAFr8W8yY8J6kpTyoTLJwspy0fL50y0Tt8O-E8BT1fQ2NFR0bXSbJMs1AwUlNVrlj1WfNaK13GXfJeXV76YG1jQ2aebRlwUnDVcU1713yDf8aFfYhCiGuLjI6-j6aP-peVl_Saz52jncSf36Kjo_KnK6eUtQS297cxuJO4yrvWwBrAUcHFwfPDbc360f3d8-Fz4vfjhOQi7BjtIO988h3z6vyr

It's not optimized for flame totem since I was going for crit low life storm call but that was a bit lackluster. with better gear and more nodes into damage+survivability, I'd end up with 4.5-5k+ ES max resists and probably around 7k flame totem dps with MF gear and much higher with dps gems. Flame totem tends to crit a lot even with 22 percent crit chance and it is much easier to shotgun than incinerate which obliterates most mobs in one hit and sometimes bosses if you crit and shotgun.

I bet it obliterates enemies. However, your build has 100% increased ES in it. How do you live in 76+ maps?

It wasn't made for maps in mind + I have about 10 points to respec since it wasn't originally made for flame totem. Right now I have about 3.6k ES with a crappy 400 es chest and wasted nodes. If I respecced I'd probably be close to 4k ES. If I upgrade my helmet and shield (250 es helmet 150 es shield) to 400 es a piece I'd have 4.5-5k ES or maybe higher haven't really calculate it. I use minions to block for me and I stand away from the mobs and let flame totems do all the work. It seems to work fine if I don't play recklessly.

I believe that flame totem is superior if you can afford gearing for it. Your build seems to work well even with not so great gear.

so is this build stil viable? ;> i want to try it out but seems there are some changes to spell totems so i was curious what do you think about this build on current version of the game :)