[1.0.6] Poison arrow/fire trap EB MoM degen build (Cheap and effective and BUFFED CRAZILY IN 1.0.6)

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eirstryder wrote:

Do you think it's possible to do this build starting off with a little bit of currency? I've been playing for a while but I haven't been able to sucessfully make it to maps due to the dropping off of my builds with unlucky gear drops

Yes , just get a +1 / +1 bow instead of a +3 and you can do this build for pretty cheap (they sell for a few chaos)

How much Chaos DoT do you have on your poison arrow?

I'm thinking of a very similar build, but with poison arrow traps instead because I want to scale the cloud as much as possible and I love trappers in general lol.

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omgken233 wrote:

How much Chaos DoT do you have on your poison arrow?

I'm thinking of a very similar build, but with poison arrow traps instead because I want to scale the cloud as much as possible and I love trappers in general lol.

Keep in mind that poison trap is very frustrating because the arrows goes in random directions

I have about 1.1k cloud damage without conc effect , at gem level 22 , with conc it's about 1.8k

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Supernico00 wrote:

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omgken233 wrote:

How much Chaos DoT do you have on your poison arrow?

I'm thinking of a very similar build, but with poison arrow traps instead because I want to scale the cloud as much as possible and I love trappers in general lol.

Keep in mind that poison trap is very frustrating because the arrows goes in random directions

I have about 1.1k cloud damage without conc effect , at gem level 22 , with conc it's about 1.8k

They don't.
Well from my experience with putting projectiles on trap, it will auto target the nearest mob. I think I tried it with poison arrow at one point too and it targets enemies fine, rather than being completely random.

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omgken233 wrote:

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Supernico00 wrote:

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omgken233 wrote:

How much Chaos DoT do you have on your poison arrow?

I'm thinking of a very similar build, but with poison arrow traps instead because I want to scale the cloud as much as possible and I love trappers in general lol.

Keep in mind that poison trap is very frustrating because the arrows goes in random directions

I have about 1.1k cloud damage without conc effect , at gem level 22 , with conc it's about 1.8k

They don't.
Well from my experience with putting projectiles on trap, it will auto target the nearest mob. I think I tried it with poison arrow at one point too and it targets enemies fine, rather than being completely random.

Heh sometimes it gets weird though

I still don't like it because of the cooldown of traps and the speed of it. If you see the video I made you can see I try to get groups of mobs and fire poison arrows everywhere to put dots everywhere, which is something that's just impossible to do with traps because of the limited charges and cooldown of it (the fire trap is less of an issue because it has half cooldown, and prolif has such a big range I don't need to throw as many)

Maybe you'll be fine with it, but personally I'm not impressed

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Supernico00 wrote:

Heh sometimes it gets weird though

I still don't like it because of the cooldown of traps and the speed of it. If you see the video I made you can see I try to get groups of mobs and fire poison arrows everywhere to put dots everywhere, which is something that's just impossible to do with traps because of the limited charges and cooldown of it (the fire trap is less of an issue because it has half cooldown, and prolif has such a big range I don't need to throw as many)

Maybe you'll be fine with it, but personally I'm not impressed

Yes cooldowns will be a problem, but I plan on getting the skill duration nodes + quality increased duration. The cloud will last around 10 secs then at Lvl 23-24. I would also run Temporal Chains and Freeze Mine to keep mobs locked in the cloud.

That is, if I ever have the time to go make this character...

Anyway I look forward to seeing your progress with this character!

since you running poison arrow and fire trap at the same time, why not link poison arrow to trap gem then focus on trap dmg, the trap gives 30%ish dmg multiplier,it's a huge dps boost, so it's much more efficient to go dot cluster with trap dmg nodes than your way of getting all the chaos/dot dmg, not to mention the flexibility you get from all sorts of traps to use.

and also ,why poison arrow + conc effect, that's just dumb, dmg from poison arrow depends on gem level and how long you can keep the monsters inside the "poison cloud", the reason poison arrow builds are offenly tanky as hell is because you are circling most of the time and you will get hit constantly

logical people would use poison arrow+increased aoe+increased duration+slower projectile+trap (since most people cannot afford even one empower, you listed 2 in this build guide is really not thoughtful)

in my opinion this is a halfway build needs quite some improvement work to be done.

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Supernico00 wrote:

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omgken233 wrote:

How much Chaos DoT do you have on your poison arrow?

I'm thinking of a very similar build, but with poison arrow traps instead because I want to scale the cloud as much as possible and I love trappers in general lol.

Keep in mind that poison trap is very frustrating because the arrows goes in random directions

I have about 1.1k cloud damage without conc effect , at gem level 22 , with conc it's about 1.8k

FYI, poison trap DOES NOT GOES IN RADOM DIRECTIONS,
I wonder have you ever tried it?

it's almost a tradition to maximize poison arrow's dmg by linking to a trap gem.
so seriously?

So for your build, do you think having an ele prolif freeze mine would help? PA and Firetrap depends on mobs standing in the DOT, so freezing them in placer would give you an easier time kiting and killing. Love the build btw. having fun trying it out.

When exactly should i go to grab the scion area? Before taking the path to EB?