BM's before and after patch

so I did a few time trials before the patch to test various support gems, and since I still had them written down decided to do post-patch tests as well. The tests are conducted vs cruel difficulty hillock, since he has decent HP and can't kill anything himself. spectres taken from norm so level 33.

passives in both cases are
minion damage: 90%
minion life: 80%

pre-patch
base BM.....32 sec
+62% life...25 sec
RMine 46%..28 sec
+89% dmg (no test)
conc 67%...31 sec

post-patch
base BM.......21 sec
+62% life.....16 sec
RMine 46%..14.6 sec
+89% dmg...13.7 sec
conc 67%...20 sec ** this is surprising?



TDLR;
BM's received no nerf whatsoever to their base damage. concentrated effect surprisingly has no effect on their damage? this could be due to the way UF is implemented it doesn't count as area damage I guess.


sidenotes:
remote mine still increases his melee swings which helps pre-patch a bit.
he hits for approx. 40% of the melee damage of a lvl 20 zombie
sometimes I can clear twilight entirely without UF activating. ouch.

If it doesn't count as an area skill, why increased area of effect work on BM's (pre-patch)?

I think it is like an aura, so increased radius will increase it, conc effect will decrease it, but no changes to dmg will be done, just in radius.

I tested with Minion Damage and Conc. Effect (seperately) and i noticed no difference. Minion Damage never worked on the BM's before the patch either, so you're saying that it does work now?

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Bragolach wrote:

I think it is like an aura, so increased radius will increase it, conc effect will decrease it, but no changes to dmg will be done, just in radius.

It could be this, thanks.

well i just insta killed Kole with one BM EE arc ele weaknes Vuln RS, trap (40 sunblast), remote mine, burning, life, min dmg and no minion dmg nodes and 1 9% trap/mine dmg node and 1 18% trap/mine dmg node


i am going to start streaming my new BMs for a bit http://www.twitch.tv/lord_sinistra

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Dextera wrote:

well i just insta killed Kole with one BM EE arc ele weaknes Vuln RS, trap (40 sunblast), remote mine, burning, life, min dmg and no minion dmg nodes and 1 9% trap/mine dmg node and 1 18% trap/mine dmg node


i am going to start streaming my new BMs for a bit http://www.twitch.tv/lord_sinistra

Checking it out now. Looking good!

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Relidar wrote:

I tested with Minion Damage and Conc. Effect (seperately) and i noticed no difference. Minion Damage never worked on the BM's before the patch either, so you're saying that it does work now?

quite definitely. minion damage gem and passsives are generic "increase damage" so they now apply to BM's aura.

I should clarify on Conc. It does not affect the damage of BM's aura, but just like pre-patch it does affect the radius of the unholy fire, same way increased AoE support increases its area.

I think ideal links would be:
raise spectre
minion life
minion damage
remote mine
trap
item quantity (or increased AoE)

Any thoughts about IIR gem and Culling Strike? Some ppl are saying that it works now!

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Asmosis wrote:

I think ideal links would be:
raise spectre
minion life
minion damage
remote mine
trap
item quantity (or increased AoE)

Or increased burning damage for the 6th link for more dps but less range.