Statistical Map Research

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Zoomtag wrote:

I also heard that item bonus quantity doesnt matter anymore but it's always interresting to have that info to eventually confirm it empirically :)

It might be interresting to use these 10 days remaining before open beta to think about what other information could influence the research. I was thinking maybe the "Map contains two unique bosses" would be interresting to gather to correlate with +2 level map drops.

While the "2 boss" mod would have a small influence on exp it may have a material influence on map drops. Might want to add it as a mod column.

Might be interesting to keep track of currency spent on rolling the maps as well. Would be great to have currency drop data as well, but that's probably unrealistic to keep tabs on all the time :)

That sure would be interresting but it's really beyond what I intend to do.

ps: I added the two boss data.

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Zoomtag wrote:

That sure would be interresting but it's really beyond what I intend to do.

ps: I added the two boss data.

I made my own rough version of the data portion of google spreadsheet that's column compatible with yours so it can just be copy/pasted- the calculated columns are just blank. Did 5 maps last night with my Immortal Call/Molten Shell/Sweep templar but he's still a bit too low level to be efficient.

I'll be keeping track of currency spent on maps in my version anyway- from this you can tell what maps are magic/rare as well. I also have a separate sheet for grinding regular zones like Fellshrine and Western Forest with exp and clear speed.

* Maps with a death will have a red fill in the row data ("Deaths" > 0)

* Maps where a level up occurred will have orange fill in the row ("Level Gained" > 0)

* Change the fill color to green on rows you've added to the main data sheet

It's worthwhile to note, even maps with a death or a level up still have valid map drop data and could be used if you can filter them out in the exp data.

I'll PM you the link so you can add the data at your convenience.

Thanks to people who contribute!

We're up to 125 maps run so far. It's still a long way away to draw any conclusions but it's a fun fact to note that a total of 126 maps dropped in those 125 map runs.

I'll carry this project on once open beta hits and hopefully we'll be able to accumulate enough data then :)

ps: if there are Statistics students or PhD around, i could use some help on reminding me about some pertinent statistical tests that I could run to get data quality and linear regression quality information. I studied that stuff 10 years ago but I dont exactly remember what to use (stuff like Chi-squared tests come to my mind)

ps2: here is a great example of submitted data:
-Player level: 73
-Player exp before running the map: 496,137,434 (55%)
-Player exp after running the map: 497,911,415 (59%)
-Player item quantity bonus %: 0
-Map name: Deadly Tropical Island Map of Commanders
-Map level: 61
-Map +size bonus % : 0
-Map +monster pack size bonus % : 0
-Map +rare monsters bonus %: 48%
-Map is a maze: no
-Map has the "2 unique bosses" affix: no
-Map +item quantity bonus % : 21%
-How many maps and which level maps dropped: Spider Forest (63)

Thanks and keep bashing!

im going to post these and be back with the info after i do them because im running amps fast and dont have too much time to complete for each one, would appreciated it if you could do it OP:



did quite a lot of high maps this week, just saw this thread

player level 85 btw

Horror Crest Plateau was: Xp from 1,317,458,247 to 1,318,510,794 in a 5 man party.
This dropped a 68 maze and a 69 plateau

Black Slag Canyon: Xp from 1,318,510,794 to 1,319,158,516 5 man party.
This dropped a 65 Arachind nest

Torture Remnant Maze: Xp from 1,319,158,516 to 1,320,140,475 in a 6 man party
This dropped a 68 gorge and a 68 maze

Ancient Vine Dark Forest: Xp from 1,320,140,475 to 1,320,582,965 6man party, 3 died
Dropped a 65 Stream

Destiny Spires Dark Forst:Xp from 1,320,582,965 to 1,321,359,793 6 man party
This dropped a 69 necropolis, a 68 maze and a 61 Thicket

second batch:


Blasted Spire gorge: xp from 1,321,359,793 to 1,322,160,689 6 man party
It dropped a 68 Maze

Terror Trap Maze map: xp from 1,322,160,689 to 1,322,957,063 6 man party
This map dropped jack shit.

Wraith Secrets Plateau map:xp from 1,322,957,063 to 1,324,101,355 6 man party
This map dropped a 65 Strand...

Profane Abyss Cells: Xp from 1,324,101,355 to 1,325,343,809 6 man party
This mapped dropped a 68Gorge,a 67 Dark Forst a 66 Jungle valley,a 61 Underground River, and a 60 Overgrown.

Cabal Ziggurat Necropolis: Xp from 1,325,343,809 to 1,327,083,140 6man party
This map dropped jack shit.

Forgotten Pit Maze: XP from 1,327,083,140 to 1,328,093,107 6man party
This map also dropped fuck-all

Third batch:



Secluded Refuge Jungle Valley: Xp from 1,328,093,107 to 1,328,487,525 6man party
This dropped a 64 Bog

Dire Refuse Dark forest:XP from 1,328,487,525 to 1,329,126,339 6 man party 2 died
this dropped a 68 Gorge, 65 Strand and a 62 Reef

Ancestral View Gorge:GGG thought it would be funny if they had a server crash midwa through the map as i had a 66 marsh and a 67 dark forest in my inventory, thus i lost all 3 maps because of their sense of humor and gained 0 XP

Dream Nexus Maze:Xp from 1,329,126,339 to 1,330,312,433 4 man party
This map dropped a 69 plateau

Fourth batch:


Iron Reaches Plateau:XP from 1,330,312,433 to 1,331,124,587 6 man party
This map dropped a 68 cells

Unholy Secrets Gorge: Xp from 1,331,124,587 to 1,332,137,209 6 man 1 dead
This dropped a 65 Strand, 64 Coves, 64 Tomb and 63 spider forest.

Evil Point Canyon:Xp from 1,332,137,209 to 1,332,669,413 6 man
This map dropped fuck all.

Twisted Abyss Torture Chamber:Xp from 1,332,669,413 to 1,333,164,038
This map dropped a 67 Mine and a 61 Thicket.

Probably the last ones for the day:

Had a 67 mine here too with 43% iiq maze mod,warlords mark curse mod and 83% extra fire damage mod: Xp went from 1,333,164,038 to 1,334,009,385. i dont know why this one isnt linked now. It was also a 6man party
That map dropped a 67 canyon and a 65 stream

Dire view Canyon: Xp from 1,334,009,385 to 1,334,504,643 6 man party
This map dropped a 68 gorge and a 67 canyon

Morbid Remnant cells:Xp from 1,334,504,643 to 1,335,336,892 6man party 1 dead
This map dropped a 67 dark forest and a 66 waste pool

*scratches head*
That group exp formula is complicated!

I'm kinda confused on how those exp bonuses and penalties interact.
There is a 50%/100%/.. bonus to base monster exp depending on how many people in the group
There is a 30% bonus simply for being in a party
There is the player group share % calculation
Then the safe range level difference penalty?

Could someone confirm me the following scenario:

A group of 6 kills a mob worth 100 exp.
Because its a group of 6, the mob's base xp gets a 5x50% base bonus, making it a 350 exp mob (100+5x50).
Then that exp gets splitted and lets assume, our player has a 20% group share.
He takes 70 exp ( his 20% share of the 350 )
He then gets a 30% bonus because he is in a party, upping the 70 to 91 exp
and afterwards whatever safe range level difference penalty is applied to those 91 exp?

I am kinda confused because I think I read there is a slight bonus to being grouped but that actually seems like reducing the exp gained a little bit, am I right?

Or does the "Monsters give +50% base XP for every party member after the first" also include the first player? For a party of 2/3/4/5/6 is it +50%/+100%/+150%/+200%/+250% or is it +100%/+150%/+200%/+250%/+300%. In the second case, there would actually be a benefit to exp in a party

Thx in advance and keep bashing!

source: http://en.pathofexilewiki.com/wiki/Experience

The 0.9.13e patch notes seem to indicate that being in party or solo is irrelevant, you get the same exp regardless of how many are in the party. All that matters is the player's effective level difference.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

0.9.13e Patch Notes
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/56368

Thanks for the link

I guess they dropped the group bonuses and just kept the safe level range and the group share part. This will make my job easier. I'll just ignore party status I guess :)

Thanks for the maps VictorDoom, keep them comin'

Decided to do 4 more from this batch.



Forsaken Shadows Waste Pool: Xp from 1,335,336,892 to 1,335,916,168 5 man party
This map dropped a 67 dark forest, a 66 waste pool, a 65 dry woods, a 64 coves and a 60 overgrown ruin.

Savage Crest Gorge: XP from 1,335,916,168 to 1,336,764,036 5man party
This map dropped a 66 jungle valley

Hate Cradle Dark Forest:Xp from 1,336,764,036 to 1,337,331,216 5man party
This map dropped fuck all

Chaos Frontier Canyon:Xp from 1,337,331,216 to 1,337,905,125 5man party
This map dropped a 65 Arachnid nest

Ill bring some more maps to the counting tomorrow, im done for the day