Laz's Level 95 CI Crit Physical Dagger Spectral Throw/Double Strike Build! W/ Gameplay Footage!

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MixedHerb wrote:

discipline is only 1k es, while Grace having all the evasion I have with this build gives me 12% more damage reduction. With this build I don't think you will ever die to a spell but since I made this build to play so aggressively I'm always in the face on bosses, monsters, etc I think you'll benefit more from the 12% damage reduction grace gives you esp when it comes to reflect physical than the 1k es discipline gives you. Maybe you're right about discipline is some cases but in this case I'd say Grace >

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Poutsos wrote:

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MixedHerb wrote:

discipline is only 1k es, while Grace having all the evasion I have with this build gives me 12% more damage reduction. With this build I don't think you will ever die to a spell but since I made this build to play so aggressively I'm always in the face on bosses, monsters, etc I think you'll benefit more from the 12% damage reduction grace gives you esp when it comes to reflect physical than the 1k es discipline gives you. Maybe you're right about discipline is some cases but in this case I'd say Grace >

It is obviously a matter of preference and paystyle,however if you do the math,discipline is better.When was the last time you died to reflect or physical damage.In my case,i am lv 93,i have 0 armour,have MUCH inferior gear than you,last time that i died to physical damage was lv86-carnage on temp chains map,with extra damage as cold.Last time i died to phys reflect:lv85 when i still used abysus.As a point of reference:

Double crema boss with the most difficult mods you can imagine,pure melee,no kiting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9DMUbqHlZY

Double Palace dominus,i get hit by the touch of god several times,one time shocked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BxYvumTAIo

These videos were recorded with an 700 ES 5L chest.On both occasions,had i used grace instead,even with YOUR gear(which i could never afford),it would be RIP.still not trying to preach,but i ve been playing crit dagger for over 6 months,for the most part i was self found,and then did very limited trading(selling only the absolut GG items that i found,like kaoms),so i had to maximise my build with limited gear.i ve tried EVERYTHING,and used over 200 regrets on my character.No,pure ES gear and discipline IS better.With the same investment,you would have 10K ES,your armour is not close enough to cover that.Elemental damage is just way worse in end game.And you can always trigger immortal call :D

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MixedHerb wrote:

I understand where you are coming from. your es pool is much higher than mine which is why discipline benefits you more than it would for mee. Looking at your chest/shield I see and understand why.

What I tried to explain to you is that due to my gear/setup it makes hardly any sense to pick discipline over grace. 1k es more over 12% DR. The choice is up to anyone who plays my build on what aura they wanna run. I myself have Never killed myself to Physical Reflect and I'm level 94 half way to 95.

Our builds are both very different two completely different playstyles. I understand where you are coming from and I'm telling you I originally started this build off with Discpline/Hatred setup then swtiched over To Grace.

Sick videos I've done many forms of dominus and tested with damage mods on the map and I can assure you though if that double domi map had any dmg mod on it you wouldve died one shot though. Don't think its meant to be tanked at all unless its basically a white map like that one was.

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Poutsos wrote:

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MixedHerb wrote:

I understand where you are coming from. your es pool is much higher than mine which is why discipline benefits you more than it would for mee. Looking at your chest/shield I see and understand why.

What I tried to explain to you is that due to my gear/setup it makes hardly any sense to pick discipline over grace. 1k es more over 12% DR. The choice is up to anyone who plays my build on what aura they wanna run. I myself have Never killed myself to Physical Reflect and I'm level 94 half way to 95.

Our builds are both very different two completely different playstyles. I understand where you are coming from and I'm telling you I originally started this build off with Discpline/Hatred setup then swtiched over To Grace.

Sick videos I've done many forms of dominus and tested with damage mods on the map and I can assure you though if that double domi map had any dmg mod on it you wouldve died one shot though. Don't think its meant to be tanked at all unless its basically a white map like that one was.

Yeah man,i see where u are coming from as well,and what you are trying to tell me.I was talking about changing gear around,and going full ES,with discippline instead.With your funds you will be able to get a 1000+ chest and a 700+ ES shield,which paired with discipline will leave at somewhere between 9-10K ES.I just think you should give it a try.I am willing to bet,that if you do calculation on hits using the armour formula with 6.5K ES vs no armour and 9.5K ES,i beleive that the second would win at 99% of the times :).Just that,if you can borrow such gear for awhile,just give it a try i d say.
About dominus,i ve played him with various mods as well.I agree it is not meant to be tanked,thats why i usually 6L my LS for this fight.However i have tanked him with 35% increased damage,getting hit 4-5 times in total,and didnt die.In the video you can see that i am smashed at the same time that the other one is hitting nme as well.The one time that i barely survived from his hit,i was shocked,which means 30% MORE incoming damage.I was amazed i even lived with that.with something like - resists,yeah,i would have been one ehit K.O. :P.

Edit: BTW,i am dont wanna sound negative,i like your build very very much!ALso bump

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MixedHerb wrote:

I know you aren't trying to down talk my build at all and I understand. I'm a fan of your build as well :). And if I could get my hands on some pure es gear I would try.

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pospops wrote:

So I am wondering why my dps is so lackluster. its at around 3300 dps and but only 35% crit chance 640% crit mult with no charges. This is what I am using. with 2 granites and 3 quicksilvers

I can't do maps that I used to be able to do before I respec'd. Mind helping me out a bit?

-Thanks