[2.2] Wurpo's quill rain + cast on crit build (aka stress test build) [not scion anymore]

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arkbone wrote:

hey Wurps, don't you think quill's rain is too low on base crit for this?

Im following up the tree pretty much to the letter, my gear is pretty decent for my level and i find spamming alot without criting at all.

Or could this be just an side effect of low level cast on crit?

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Wurps wrote:

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pierce768 wrote:

I feel like cold penetration is probably better than conc effect for barrage.

Lets say both gems are max level. If your target has 75% cold res conc effect adds 48% damage but 75% gets resisted so really only 12% more damage. While Cold pen will be giving a flat increase of 34% damage. Even with only 25% cold resist conc effect will only add 36% more damage.

At least I think that's how it works ;p


Also was just wondering what skills you use defensively and for vaal gems. I have been ripping through pretty much everything but it's good to be prepared.

I have two defensive links now.

CWDT + Molten shell + temp chains + Ice golem

Ranged attack totem + Ice shot + gmp + blind

For Vaal gems I was thinking rain of arrows or maybe summon skeletons just to distract mobs some time.

Probably true against max res targets.

I recently swapped to double cold snap instead of cold snap + conc, if you added frostbite or ele weakness to the mix it would probably work better than cold pen (and make cold pen less effective as a result)

I don't really use anything defensive right now due to lack of link space, but I would use a vaal haste or vaal grace if I had one

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rydall wrote:

Can this build be played on tempest? Also do you have trouble with reflect mobs?

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Wurps wrote:

@lazerpickle I only get like 3 accuracy nodes, and they're also attack speed. Lioneye's glare would not be worth it, would cut average crits per second in half.

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arkbone wrote:

hey Wurps, don't you think quill's rain is too low on base crit for this?

Im following up the tree pretty much to the letter, my gear is pretty decent for my level and i find spamming alot without criting at all.

Or could this be just an side effect of low level cast on crit?

You'll need to focus on crit nodes pretty hard, ignore life and stuff until you get them, even if it makes you a bit of a glass cannon.

Quill rain is great due to the speed (and projectile speed as a bonus)

There are many benefits of having a rapid firing weapon as opposed to a slower firing weapon with equivalent crits per second

Say for example you had a harbinger bow with 10% base crit and 1.5 attack speed instead of quill rain's 5% base crit and 3.0 attack speed, the following things would be different:

1. Rate of flask refilling much worse with a slower weapon
2. Sustainability when using thief's torment would be worse (about half as much hp regen)
3. Ability to quickly move after attacking is faster if you end your animation faster, can assist in dodging.
4. Your very first attack would have a higher chance of being a crit which could be nice sometimes, but if you get unlucky and your first 1 or 2 attacks don't crit with a slow weapon it would be devastating.
5. The effectiveness of poacher's mark/assassin's mark is reduced with a slower weapon. Assassin's mark increases chance to be crit by a flat amount, so quill rain is very good with it.
6. The projectile speed from quill rain is actually pretty nice, greatly increases the speed at which things die due to chain bounces being almost instant and projectile travel time not being a negative factor.

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rydall wrote:

Okay great. Thank you.

Are you able to upload some more videos? Want to see how this build does in higher level.