pabrt's Critical Mass Discharger 1.2 (molten strike coc)

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increase phy dmg dagger better or increase spell dmg?

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willycai wrote:

increase phy dmg dagger better or increase spell dmg?

The former is always preferable over the latter. Mainly because you need to leech as much mana as possible so you won't go oom.

Hey, I posted earlier and nobody responded to my post at all, but it's ok because a large number of problems solved themselves. Only questions left are how does one sustain the mana required to constantly discharge? And is Vaal Pact absolutely necessary now with the changes to leech?

crap i got 66 points and no clue where to put any of them lol

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Captain_Comatose wrote:

Hey, I posted earlier and nobody responded to my post at all, but it's ok because a large number of problems solved themselves. Only questions left are how does one sustain the mana required to constantly discharge? And is Vaal Pact absolutely necessary now with the changes to leech?

Here are tips from another guide.. But it works for this build too
1. Increase physical DPS so you can leech more
2. Increase size of mana pool so you can leech faster
3. Get mana leech on gear, have +% mana leech on mana flask
4. Run Clarity for mana regen
5. If necessary improve mana regen by getting passives on tree
6. Reduce attack speed by using a slower weapon
7. Reduce attack speed by removing attack speed nodes
8. Reduce attack speed and mana cost by removing gem links (i.e. using 5L instead of 6L)
9. Use Thief's Torment ring for Mana Gain on Hit
10. Use lower level Double Strike for lower mana cost
11. Use Blood Magic gem for curses and movement skills like Leap Slam etc.

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Captain_Comatose wrote:

Hey, I posted earlier and nobody responded to my post at all, but it's ok because a large number of problems solved themselves. Only questions left are how does one sustain the mana required to constantly discharge? And is Vaal Pact absolutely necessary now with the changes to leech?

I passed a lot of posts two days ago or so because I wasn't in the mood to respond to them but the reason for the need of a high physical dmg daggers is so you can leech enough mana to keep Double Striking. That's why daggers with more than 80% increased phys dmg are important.

Now, I don't know if you need that mod on both daggers, but you really do on the main hand one. And yes, VP is needed and even with it, the nerf is still pretty visible, imo.

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alkoxide wrote:

crap i got 66 points and no clue where to put any of them lol

I did this one pretty fast but I don't know how your gear is and if you have a 5L Voll's or not, if you do, here, something like this: http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABAAYDlhUgFfYc3CQ8J6kppSo4Kk0s6TGeMgk1kjsoPydGcUlRSn1KyE3jTipabVuvYENieWegbBZsRm49bqpwVnJsf8aC5IMJg9uHdohCiPGKr5ARkBuTJ5oTplenXKlutAy18r68wcXOcdDu29TdDfej_Ev8xf6P

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Intellect wrote:

10. Use lower level Double Strike for lower mana cost

To be honest, DS shouldn't even go past level 5 because its damage doesn't really matter. I think. I actually am not sure if the increased physical damage it gives by leveling it up trumps over the mana cost it gains when leeching mana, so meep.

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pabrt wrote:

You could do it with a 4l volls, but you'd be missing out on multistrike or life leech, both of which are very useful.

It's not the easiest build to do self found, but it is possible.

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Majad wrote:

Didn't really think about going for 4L instead of 5L. At low levels a 4L Voll's is more than enough but not having that extra leech/AS from life leech/multistrike will be really noticeable once you hit higher levels (around 60 and up).

Like, if you're going to do self found then you really need to start saving every currency you come across to trade it for fuses on the shop.

If anyone isn't able to afford the 5L, the simple solution to lvl up with the build is running Clarity with Blood Magic and use Cyclone - CoC - Discharge - Life Leech

Yes it'll desync a lot, but for a single Socket no skill can beat Cyclone when it came to CoC. And you could have a Vaal Cyclone in other Socket for souls so at bosses you could swap Vaal Cyclone in and one shot most bosses...

Yey! Finally killed Atziri ) To do this I leveled up another (but very similar - coc discharger with dual strike) scion and made another build to reach 100% resists to fire and lightning.. Died 3 times - oneshot from vaal smash , desync during second boss fight and on Atziri once, because I forgot to pop up flasks, but most of the time I just face-tanked all Atziri attacks.. Somehow she managed to damage me with large flameblast, though a had 100% fire res.. So either it penetrates fire res, or converts fire damage to cold (i have 100% cold risist too, but decided to turn off purity of ice during this fight).
Anyway i'm glad I did it :)

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pabrt wrote:

I tried switching from 1.4 to a 1.2 dagger, my attacks/sec went from 6.3 to 5.8 (not using prismatic)

Using the new tree without prismatic i'm at 403%, which goes down to 326% with a 1.2 weap

If you're using the exact same skill tree I'm not sure what is causing i t

hi, i stil cant hit yr attack speed when i equip a 1.47as dagger lol.. nonetheless i like wat my currently equip.. works well and can run ele reflect map with no problems.. (hav to keep popping flask)