[2.0]Rathik's NEWBIE FRIENDLY FUN&CHEAP FARMER, DPS Summoner. High AOE DMG, SURVIVAL."The Matriarch"

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LakaiScorten wrote:
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This doesn't sound very HC viable to me :O


I'm playing this build with CI in Bloodlines at the moment. Only tested in 66's but that's just because I don't have a map pool yet.

Until my gems and I are higher levels I have forgone stacking IIQ/IIR in favour of pure es, and with 10k I feel ok in most situations. The main problem is that my zombie gem is only level 17 so they die to strong aoe attacks. Also I neglected to get boots with movespeed. RIP clear times.

current gear

But yeah, this build has been and continues to be HC viable, so don't worry about that pesky phys damage and just follow Rathik's advice :)


http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/532639/filter-account-type/staff
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maffa50 wrote:
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LakaiScorten wrote:
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This doesn't sound very HC viable to me :O


I'm playing this build with CI in Bloodlines at the moment. Only tested in 66's but that's just because I don't have a map pool yet.

Until my gems and I are higher levels I have forgone stacking IIQ/IIR in favour of pure es, and with 10k I feel ok in most situations. The main problem is that my zombie gem is only level 17 so they die to strong aoe attacks. Also I neglected to get boots with movespeed. RIP clear times.

current gear

But yeah, this build has been and continues to be HC viable, so don't worry about that pesky phys damage and just follow Rathik's advice :)




Thanks again, I've continued to level up my twink. How do you handle mobs that jump at you (e.g. Act 3 sewers or Act 3 Sceptre of God)?
Hi I just wanted to commend Rathik for this awesome guide. When playing the game, I will occasionally refer to this forum post as the comments were really helpful as it feels that Rathik really understands zombie summoners.

I am a casual player and only managed to get 2 characters to Merciless SC; one of which is a Life+EB summonner which just defeated Piety yesterday :)

I started out with my favorite Glacial Cascade skill and really had a lot of fun playing this build after normal difficulty when my zombies have 1k+ life. I only needed 4L at most and majority of my items were self-found. The combination of 4L-zombies, skeleton-totems and unlinked-specters were sufficient to clear most map content (except some difficulty in Vorici missions). I used desecrate and flesh offering to speed things up as I am using culling strike instead of faster attacks as I have not found the latter gem yet.

I just wanted emphasize on Rathik's tactics for Piety; that it is extremely useful for Brutus, Kole Leaping Boss in sewers and Dominus. Minion Instability is a must and the main tactic is to constantly summon skeleton totems and spamming desecrate+zombies for mass distraction while your character have to run back to avoid stuff.

I also had about 2k+ armor and 2.3k+ life to survive at least 1 hit from Kole as I did not have enduring cry/CWDT setup yet.

Sorry for my bad english and hope more people will try this build out if you like this kind of delegation playstyle. I am really addicted and have difficulty playing non-summoners now haha.
Last edited by lalelala#6997 on Jan 3, 2015, 12:07:08 AM
Rathik, thoughts on heartbreaker??
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broseidon07 wrote:
Rathik, thoughts on heartbreaker??


Decent but rares are way better. Crit and spell are worthless to the build, you only get mana and ES stats, its culling doesn't work with zombies.

I wouldn't use it but it doesn't break the build.
IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
Last edited by Rathik2#1558 on Jan 3, 2015, 4:01:57 AM
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LakaiScorten wrote:
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maffa50 wrote:
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LakaiScorten wrote:
-snip-

This doesn't sound very HC viable to me :O


I'm playing this build with CI in Bloodlines at the moment. Only tested in 66's but that's just because I don't have a map pool yet.

Until my gems and I are higher levels I have forgone stacking IIQ/IIR in favour of pure es, and with 10k I feel ok in most situations. The main problem is that my zombie gem is only level 17 so they die to strong aoe attacks. Also I neglected to get boots with movespeed. RIP clear times.

current gear

But yeah, this build has been and continues to be HC viable, so don't worry about that pesky phys damage and just follow Rathik's advice :)




Thanks again, I've continued to level up my twink. How do you handle mobs that jump at you (e.g. Act 3 sewers or Act 3 Sceptre of God)?


Curse them and sidestep them, pop a granite flask. When you get to 6-7k ES you won't mind taking the hit.

Be aware of leapers/charges when you are in a map with vulnerability curse or other added damage modifiers.

When killing monsters try to prioritize killing monsters that deal physical damage.
IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
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lalelala wrote:
Hi I just wanted to commend Rathik for this awesome guide. When playing the game, I will occasionally refer to this forum post as the comments were really helpful as it feels that Rathik really understands zombie summoners.

I am a casual player and only managed to get 2 characters to Merciless SC; one of which is a Life+EB summonner which just defeated Piety yesterday :)

I started out with my favorite Glacial Cascade skill and really had a lot of fun playing this build after normal difficulty when my zombies have 1k+ life. I only needed 4L at most and majority of my items were self-found. The combination of 4L-zombies, skeleton-totems and unlinked-specters were sufficient to clear most map content (except some difficulty in Vorici missions). I used desecrate and flesh offering to speed things up as I am using culling strike instead of faster attacks as I have not found the latter gem yet.

I just wanted emphasize on Rathik's tactics for Piety; that it is extremely useful for Brutus, Kole Leaping Boss in sewers and Dominus. Minion Instability is a must and the main tactic is to constantly summon skeleton totems and spamming desecrate+zombies for mass distraction while your character have to run back to avoid stuff.

I also had about 2k+ armor and 2.3k+ life to survive at least 1 hit from Kole as I did not have enduring cry/CWDT setup yet.

Sorry for my bad english and hope more people will try this build out if you like this kind of delegation playstyle. I am really addicted and have difficulty playing non-summoners now haha.


Gratz on your Piety kill. I am glad you enjoy the build.
Your English is just fine, I really enjoyed your post.
It was a good read with my morning coffee :).

And yea, playing a summoners requires a strategic play style, not just spamming a skill.
Try to farm some currency for a 5L or even a 6L.

Regards
IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
I"m a tad confused, if you're doing CI MF build, the objective is to pretty much summon skellies and have them blow up, doing the most AOE dps, while your zombies act as meat shields?

Do you think you can achieve your CI MF build with <20 ex on standard?
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broseidon07 wrote:
I"m a tad confused, if you're doing CI MF build, the objective is to pretty much summon skellies and have them blow up, doing the most AOE dps, while your zombies act as meat shields?

Do you think you can achieve your CI MF build with <20 ex on standard?


Thats not actually the game play.

Your zombies are your main source of damage, they do aoe damage.

You can do it with much less than 20 ex. You can get a decent 5L pretty cheap.

Skeletons are secondary in the build, they are useful when dealing with bosses that do massive aoe damage and zombies cant stay alive.

I really don't get where you got the idea that the main objective is to summon skeletons and blow them up as the main source of damage.
IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
Hey Rathik, I've been leveling up with this build to a T, but I'm just about to hit 68 and I'm having some trouble finding good gear for this CI MF build.

Going by the items that you have, putting in equivelent stats or even way less stats, the minimum price for almost all pieces comes out to be ~2ex.

Going by this, what would you say to decrease, change, etc to make the items more affordable for someone who's new on standard?

Thanks!
Last edited by broseidon07#1963 on Jan 9, 2015, 12:46:07 AM

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