[2.0]Rathik's NEWBIE FRIENDLY FUN&CHEAP FARMER, DPS Summoner. High AOE DMG, SURVIVAL."The Matriarch"

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Dawitchbiatch wrote:

is it possible to run atziri map with this build? moreover, how good is it tentacle miscreation as spirit? evangelists do pretty well, but i never tried anything else :3

update: i switched my equipment, so now i rely more on spirits than zombies. i found this setup more interesting with this build, and my runs are even more faster than before. I switched evangelists for tentacle miscreation first, then i tested undying alchemist and undying incinerator, and both works great too. i experienced faster runs, even with the worst mods (for me ofc ;) temporal chains/frozen ground/fracturing/chain/overlord on 73-75 maps), and i killed rogues that i never been able to do, like Antalie Napora (dat b*tch). now i aim to 6l my queen's decree to boost my zombies again.

Yea, well I am against of using that sword. You loose to much defense by using it and little to gain.

But thats just me.

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Rathik2 wrote:

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Dawitchbiatch wrote:

is it possible to run atziri map with this build? moreover, how good is it tentacle miscreation as spirit? evangelists do pretty well, but i never tried anything else :3

update: i switched my equipment, so now i rely more on spirits than zombies. i found this setup more interesting with this build, and my runs are even more faster than before. I switched evangelists for tentacle miscreation first, then i tested undying alchemist and undying incinerator, and both works great too. i experienced faster runs, even with the worst mods (for me ofc ;) temporal chains/frozen ground/fracturing/chain/overlord on 73-75 maps), and i killed rogues that i never been able to do, like Antalie Napora (dat b*tch). now i aim to 6l my queen's decree to boost my zombies again.

Yea, well I am against of using that sword. You loose to much defense by using it and little to gain.

But thats just me.

i did my tests, and i agree with you. 1 more spirit doesn't pay the drawback of less defense.

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Dawitchbiatch wrote:

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Rathik2 wrote:

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Dawitchbiatch wrote:

is it possible to run atziri map with this build? moreover, how good is it tentacle miscreation as spirit? evangelists do pretty well, but i never tried anything else :3

update: i switched my equipment, so now i rely more on spirits than zombies. i found this setup more interesting with this build, and my runs are even more faster than before. I switched evangelists for tentacle miscreation first, then i tested undying alchemist and undying incinerator, and both works great too. i experienced faster runs, even with the worst mods (for me ofc ;) temporal chains/frozen ground/fracturing/chain/overlord on 73-75 maps), and i killed rogues that i never been able to do, like Antalie Napora (dat b*tch). now i aim to 6l my queen's decree to boost my zombies again.

Yea, well I am against of using that sword. You loose to much defense by using it and little to gain.

But thats just me.

i did my tests, and i agree with you. 1 more spirit doesn't pay the drawback of less defense.

Actually this sword was discussed in length over and over again in this topic.

Thing is, the topic has become to big so is actually faster to test things by your self instead of looking for them in here heh.

Thank you Rathik for an awesome build! I've been using this build this ladder starting out of nothing and playing solo and it has been working awesomely for me thus far I'm capable of pretty much beating any map. Haven't gotten higher than 77 shipyard though but beat a double boss there easily.

I've a problem now that I thought I could ask someones advice here. I'm currently saving on a new chestpiece, but I don't really know which way to go: Should I buy a 5-link vis mortis or should I get a rare chest and craft +1zombies into it, because I have montegruls and wear bones of ullr it would allow me to have 5 zombies. Which one is better 5 montegrul zombies or 4 5-link evangelists?

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MaNNe88 wrote:

Thank you Rathik for an awesome build! I've been using this build this ladder starting out of nothing and playing solo and it has been working awesomely for me thus far I'm capable of pretty much beating any map. Haven't gotten higher than 77 shipyard though but beat a double boss there easily.

I've a problem now that I thought I could ask someones advice here. I'm currently saving on a new chestpiece, but I don't really know which way to go: Should I buy a 5-link vis mortis or should I get a rare chest and craft +1zombies into it, because I have montegruls and wear bones of ullr it would allow me to have 5 zombies. Which one is better 5 montegrul zombies or 4 5-link evangelists?

idk much about mont'tregul, looks quite nice, but imo a 5-6l with spirits like flame sentinel increase the clear speed a lot more than 5l zombies. both have their pros, but if u manage to keep your spirits alive (not difficult at all), then spirits are better. the only boss i can't kill right now is merveil in necropolis 75, dat bitch kills all my zombies at an incredible rate, even if i setup my zombies in my 6l and i have purity + purity of ice :(

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MaNNe88 wrote:

Thank you Rathik for an awesome build! I've been using this build this ladder starting out of nothing and playing solo and it has been working awesomely for me thus far I'm capable of pretty much beating any map. Haven't gotten higher than 77 shipyard though but beat a double boss there easily.

I've a problem now that I thought I could ask someones advice here. I'm currently saving on a new chestpiece, but I don't really know which way to go: Should I buy a 5-link vis mortis or should I get a rare chest and craft +1zombies into it, because I have montegruls and wear bones of ullr it would allow me to have 5 zombies. Which one is better 5 montegrul zombies or 4 5-link evangelists?

Ok, I have stated many times how I feel about specters as your main minion. Just the fact that I have to waste 10 mins to find 4 evangelists is a NO NO for me.

Vis Mortis is a DPS armour.
A rare ES chest is a defensive armour.

You should check your how much ES and RES you have when using Vis Mortis, if you can manage to keep a high value of IIR/IIQ, ES and res with vis mortis, I say go for it, else you should be on the safe side.

Or you can get both and switch them depending on the map difficulty.

As for the montregrul zombies vs evanglelists. Well, it depends on how hard the map is. If a zombie die you can re summon it, if a specter dies, you need to go out and find one to summon, which is a waste of time and portals if you are in a group.

3 evangelist in a 4l should be fine IMO.

Rathik did you kill Atziri with this build? I love summoners but I really wanna be viable to kill Atziri. Could build oriented with Summon Ragging Spirits be better?

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Asag wrote:

Rathik did you kill Atziri with this build? I love summoners but I really wanna be viable to kill Atziri. Could build oriented with Summon Ragging Spirits be better?

This build was not designed to kill atziri, there is just to much AOE damage for your zombies to stay alive.

You can how ever replace your zombies with SRS and have a go at her(normal atziri). You should be able to kill her with the right SRS gem combination. With saffels, enough cast speed, light warp + fast cast + reduce duration (to escape AOEs) and the right flasks she is very doable.

Your biggest problem will be the trio IMO.

I don't think you need a high IIR/IIQ build for Atziri. I mean she has guarantee drops.
It would be better if you make another toon specific for uber atziri, there are some builds under 20 exalted that can do her.

You are much better of making another character and farm her with it and use the summoner to apply the IIR/IIQ in maps.

What's the DPS of this build. I know the minions do the work.. but how high would it be? :o

Can this build do level 75+ maps easily and quick?

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Sleepy92 wrote:

What's the DPS of this build. I know the minions do the work.. but how high would it be? :o

Can this build do level 75+ maps easily and quick?

You can do high level maps but the DPS does not compare with the high end crit builds out there. (About 30% slower depending on the map modes)
The DPS though is very high with a 6L if you drop the IIR/IIQ gems.

Check my video of me killing normal Dominus to get an idea of the damage output.