[2.0]Rathik's NEWBIE FRIENDLY FUN&CHEAP FARMER, DPS Summoner. High AOE DMG, SURVIVAL."The Matriarch"

Hi guys, have a question here. So I had a 5L chest that consisted of multistrike + melee splash + raise zombie + IIR + IIQ. The thing is, the spectres (evangelists) are killing some of the other monsters before the zombies do and all that IIR and IIQ are wasted. How do you guys deal with this?

My idea is just to 5L my culling strike arc which also has IIR. So it would look like this: Culling strike + arc + iir + iiq + chain.

Is that the most ideal setup? How do you guys do it effectively without "wasting" some of the mobs?
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the_Arkain wrote:
thanks Rathik2, i will have a look at hp and resistence.
How "high" should i hold chaos? I am a lifebuild.
At the moment i am at about +25% chaos res.

If you are at 25% with out flask then you are fine.
Just keep a flask with you in case you need it.
Not all areas have chaos damage.
Of course if you can add your base chaos res with out sacrificing anything else then go for it.
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Last edited by Rathik2#1558 on Apr 20, 2014, 2:29:29 PM
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TigerSpook wrote:
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FatRhys wrote:
I know that the build doesn't require snapshotting but I was just wondering if it would be cheaper. Should I purchase a good 5-6L es chest or just use a high es chest without links and a white 6L? I am new to summoners and snapshotting so I don't know if it will be nerfed any time soon.

I was also wondering how much ES I should aim for on my chest.


There's a snapshotting thread, it's probably on page 2 or 3 of the witch forum. A search should find it quick. All I can say is that you can get to level 84 without 'hardcore' snapshotting and without dying much at all.

How much ES on your chest? As much as you can get. Hit poe.xyz and see what you can find.

A 5L chest is not needed; my 5th slot is taken up by an 'Item Rarity' gem. So for just killing mobs and pharming experience, that gem socket is wasted. It really depends upon your goals. A decent 5L chest is something like 5 exalted. That's just 6 'rows' of alts. Not so hard to farm that much.



This gear was about the best I was willing to afford. It hit my 'gotta haves': 5L, a solid Life attribute, and 500+ ES. The nice lightning resist was a bonus.

There is far better gear out there of course, and it costs 30 to 200+ exalted.

Don't spend the currency on a piece of substandard gear. You should have a gearing strategy. If a piece of gear doesn't fit your strategy, do not buy it. (I am assuming you're in Merciless and things are getting harder...)

If you don't have a gearing strategy, come up with one. It will help you refrain from buying great gear that does not advance your character. For example, I am wholly satisfied with my main weapon.



Inexplicable to most. But look at that mana regen. That, and the 3L, are the only attributes I care about. That weapon cost me about 1c. I have been using it for at least 10 levels. If I found one with 55%+ mana regen and '+1 cold gems' I would switch to it, maybe, since I use Arctic Armor all the time (literally, I never turn it off, and it never goes away...)


I don't know if you know it but I'll say it anyway :D.

You can +1 all gems on weapon, you should check poe xyz atleast 1 a day for it.

I really hope you get one.
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Thanks for the advice Rathik and TigerSpook. I didn't realise that zombies could be so powerful with just a 4L for damage. This is probably the cheapest CI build I've seen and I would like to thank Rathik again for such a good guide.
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Rathik2 wrote:
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TigerSpook wrote:

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For example, I am wholly satisfied with my main weapon.



Inexplicable to most.


I don't know if you know it but I'll say it anyway :D.

You can +1 all gems on weapon, you should check poe xyz atleast 1 a day for it.

I really hope you get one.


Me too. I kept looking for a while, but the sellers were never online, then I forgot it after a while. I checked out poe.xyz after I typed that and found a +3 Cold Gems weapon with plenty of mana regen. Of course, the seller was not online... But if I decide to lurk on xyz for a while, I should be able to get a +2 Cold, or +1 all, and get another bump for no effort and not a lot of currency.

Last edited by TigerSpook#7289 on Apr 20, 2014, 11:22:45 PM
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mikdepadua wrote:
Hi guys, have a question here. So I had a 5L chest that consisted of multistrike + melee splash + raise zombie + IIR + IIQ. The thing is, the spectres (evangelists) are killing some of the other monsters before the zombies do and all that IIR and IIQ are wasted. How do you guys deal with this?

My idea is just to 5L my culling strike arc which also has IIR. So it would look like this: Culling strike + arc + iir + iiq + chain.

Is that the most ideal setup? How do you guys do it effectively without "wasting" some of the mobs?


Well, you want to saw through mobs pretty quick. I don't spend a lot of effort trying to Cull normal yellow mobs. First, I have my zombies in a +2 Minion hat. This makes them wholly badass. I have Specters in a 4L. I have Skellies in the 5L chest.

Chest has Skellies and Multistrike, Melee, Cull, Rarity.

I have found that minions have slightly different behavior. Zombies and Specters follow you around. Skellies get distracted. When I fight a monster and I want the Rarity from the skellies, I engage with as many skellies as I can, and then run away a little, enough to make the zombs follow me (AKA they aren't attacking). The skellies are too dumb and stay in the fight. Then I run back, refresh the skellies, and run out, to again pull the zombs out of the fight. I have gone so far as to kill my zombies near the end of a boss fight to make sure the boss is culled by the skellies.

For normal yellow bosses, I just saw through them. I make sure I have as many skellies up as I can, and if they get the cull (there are 12 of them, after all) I get the drops.
Last edited by TigerSpook#7289 on Apr 20, 2014, 11:33:12 PM
Thinking make CI MF summoner, since got 64lvl witch with reseted tree. Some things bothering me:

1. Full MF summoner clear speed, how quick and "good" drops combared to 0 MF quicker clearer Blender/Ele ST for example and its viable to do end game maps?

2. Evangelist? Wiki didnt know nothing ???

Got some "decent" mf es parts rdy, 12% Q belt, 24% Q gloves, Item Quantity gems and thought give this try if it could give some more and "better" drops in quite same time than previously named builds. Prolly even I could sell my Blender gear (leg bor, decent weps) for CI MF gear.
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Rautaisannos wrote:
Thinking make CI MF summoner, since got 64lvl witch with reseted tree. Some things bothering me:

1. Full MF summoner clear speed, how quick and "good" drops combared to 0 MF quicker clearer Blender/Ele ST for example and its viable to do end game maps?

2. Evangelist? Wiki didnt know nothing ???

Got some "decent" mf es parts rdy, 12% Q belt, 24% Q gloves, Item Quantity gems and thought give this try if it could give some more and "better" drops in quite same time than previously named builds. Prolly even I could sell my Blender gear (leg bor, decent weps) for CI MF gear.


Hopefully I can answer some of your questions

1. If you read up on discussions regarding min/max of IIR/IIQ, there is a huge difference between an IIR/IIQ build and 0 IIR/IIQ. But I would say that this build will not clear as fast as pure dps builds like Ele ST (I have a barrage wander), although drops wise you will not be disapointed with all the yellows/reds (it still clears fast, but not insanely fast like the ones you mentioned, since control of minions is still not perfect in this game currently)

2. Not sure what you are trying to ask? Do you mean the best spectre to use currently?

I think you could go ahead as long as you have a 4L armor with decent ES, the rest of the gears could be bought cheap to get a good IIR/IIQ rating and get the build going.

Just to update the current gears I am wearing:

Spoiler


At 239IIR/23IIQ with nothing costing more than a bomb. Still saving for the next upgrade >_>
Last edited by Taopok#0494 on Apr 21, 2014, 6:35:02 AM
The drops are better but it's way slower.
By evangelist i mean exactly that sceptre thing.

Example about time/speed what I tryed to explain (lunaris temple piety run for example):

If my blender clears piety in 4-5mins with 0mf and prolly MF Summoner in 15-20mins (+lvl2 lunaris temple area remaked since wasted over 8min probably, if think lvl3 door close to waypoint). Still MF Summoner better drops even if blender does that stage 3-4times more in same time? (just poor example)
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