Lightning damage + stormfire + oath of summer

Stormfire allows lightning damage to ignite
Oath of summer turns ignite into scorch
If my character only does lightning damage will scorch...

1) Not work because scorch can only be scaled by fire damage
2) Work because scorch assumes the damage that caused the hit was fire damage since the hit caused ignite
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Hits that would Ignite instead Scorch: Each hit that successfully ignites will attempt to inflict a Scorch instead.

Scorch effect is still based on the defender's fire damage taken, regardless of effects that allow igniting with other types of damage, such as Hexblast's All Damage can Ignite.
Basically you can inflict scorch with lightning damage, but it has no effect because you don't deal fire damage.
Last edited by 6_din_49#4066 on Jul 30, 2024, 5:13:10 AM
To be honest, it does feel more like a bug rather than intended behavior.
Last edited by tiritto#3382 on Aug 1, 2024, 1:05:39 PM
Seems like its working as intended.

The node says 'hits that ignite instead inflict scorch" and scorch is still based on the fire damage of the hit.

If the ring said "your lightning damage can ignite and scorch" then I would expect the interaction to work.
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gladiatorpie wrote:
Seems like its working as intended.

The node says 'hits that ignite instead inflict scorch" and scorch is still based on the fire damage of the hit.

If the ring said "your lightning damage can ignite and scorch" then I would expect the interaction to work.



Your lightning damage can ignite + Scorch instead of ignite should mean that lightning damage can scorch. All the node cares about is whether you can ignite, and stormfire enables it.

If it doesn't work, it's a bug.
Last edited by auspexa#1404 on Aug 1, 2024, 3:33:26 PM
I disagree. The node wants you to ignite and then give you a scorch based on the fire damage of the hit.

Fire damage = 0 = no scorch


You need an item with a line that says "your lightning damage can scorch" to make this work.
I disagree, this clearly seems bugged to me as well.

The burning damage from ignites caused by lightning damage is lightning damage that has been converted to fire - i.e. an ignite is inflicted with X fire damage, which should then be converted to a scorch. Seems really obvious and straight forward. You don't have to then deal fire damage to cause a lightning-based ignite, the conversion is built in else it would do nothing - therefore the same should apply to scorch.

It doesn't say if you ignite you CAN instead scorch, it says if you ignite INSTEAD scorch, i.e., in lieu of an inflicted ignite inflict an equivalent scorch. So if ignite replace with scorch, not check to see if you CAN scorch. Needs to be fixed or reworded.
Last edited by Losian#0040 on Aug 2, 2024, 2:21:33 AM
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gladiatorpie wrote:
I disagree. The node wants you to ignite and then give you a scorch based on the fire damage of the hit.

Fire damage = 0 = no scorch


You need an item with a line that says "your lightning damage can scorch" to make this work.


You're inflicting scorch instead of ignite. It shouldn't care what you're scorching with. If you can ignite, you can scorch.

If it works like you described, it's 100% a bug

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