3.24.2 Hotfix 5

League ban seems fair; if ggg has the logs showing who exploited device. Yeah league ban seems fair. If you just bought an item then the item should be patched pretty simple. Anything else does not teach cheaters a lesson; and in fact encourages others to cheat. Hell you might get away with it. We all knew what was happening but decided it was an absolute exploit; while others made hundreds of divines off it. Justice is justice. Get banned.

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Radikcdn wrote:

League ban seems fair; if ggg has the logs showing who exploited device. Yeah league ban seems fair. If you just bought an item then the item should be patched pretty simple. Anything else does not teach cheaters a lesson; and in fact encourages others to cheat. Hell you might get away with it. We all knew what was happening but decided it was an absolute exploit; while others made hundreds of divines off it. Justice is justice. Get banned.

If they don't ban, at least we should receive clear rules and guidelines to prevent such things in the future.

This tale is as old as online games are. It's probably been posted several times by now, but this should appear on top of every page of this thread:

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17. Cancellation of Membership: Grinding Gear Games reserves the right, acting at its sole discretion, [...] if you have engaged in behaviour which Grinding Gear Games deems in its sole discretion is not in keeping with the intended spirit of participation in PoE or for any other reason whatsoever. [...] you agree that Grinding Gear Games will not be required to provide you with prior notice or explanation in respect of such action.

Although, contrary to other online games, there's no actual mention of misuse of unexpected game behaviour under §7. "Restrictions", section §17 makes it absolutely impossible to misunderstand.
While I think white hats shouldn't get banned for reporting bugs, this situation can have whatever consequence GGG would like there to be. I've been banned in other games before, and it was totally deserved. I knew what I was doing. Suck it up.

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vacii wrote:

If they don't ban, at least we should receive clear rules and guidelines to prevent such things in the future.

Kinda gross how many players in this thread obviously cheated. Now in here trying to justify it. I saw one guy say'in he was autistic; so he was unable to tell it was an exploit. Like this is some wild stuff. I'm disappointed by the community today. Today as a whole we're no better than a bunch of aimbotters on CSGO. You knew; you don't play POE for five years with multiple supporter titles and get to play stupid.

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Radikcdn wrote:

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vacii wrote:

If they don't ban, at least we should receive clear rules and guidelines to prevent such things in the future.

Kinda gross how many players in this thread obviously cheated. Now in here trying to justify it. I saw one guy say'in he was autistic; so he was unable to tell it was an exploit. Like this is some wild stuff. I'm disappointed by the community today. Today as a whole we're no better than a bunch of aimbotters on CSGO. You knew; you don't play POE for five years with multiple supporter titles and get to play stupid.

The autistic comment started me going in the first place. I've been arguing against "defenders" for hours now, in hope that at least some clear cut rules come out of it.

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Deridjian wrote:

It's probably been posted several times by now, but this should appear on top of every page of this thread:

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17. Cancellation of Membership: Grinding Gear Games reserves the right, acting at its sole discretion, [...] if you have engaged in behaviour which Grinding Gear Games deems in its sole discretion is not in keeping with the intended spirit of participation in PoE or for any other reason whatsoever. [...] you agree that Grinding Gear Games will not be required to provide you with prior notice or explanation in respect of such action.

Although, contrary to other online games, there's no actual mention of misuse of unexpected game behaviour under §7. "Restrictions", section §17 makes it absolutely impossible to misunderstand.
While I think white hats shouldn't get banned for reporting bugs, this situation can have whatever consequence GGG would like there to be. I've been banned in other games before, and it was totally deserved. I knew what I was doing. Suck it up.

I think it's about time we get guidelines for this, in order to prevent pointless discussions about it in the future.

I still see 6-link shields, one-handed weapons and quivers on the trade. You can only guess how many such cheating things the players have on their hands. GGG, where's your promised fix?

Do you think people who saved their items at 6l magic with an imprint can revert back their item to the bugged state??

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axeltt012 wrote:

Do you think people who saved their items at 6l magic with an imprint can revert back their item to the bugged state??

Also gift wrapping items should be looked at.

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Reinhart wrote:

Years back at the dawn of this game, temp league events were voided because some of the more rewarding ones would cause too much damage to Standard. Nowadays everyone is okay, to flood standard with all kinds of overpowered gear, bug exploited or not. Why not just let mirrors drop like candy in both league and Standard then?

First week of this league you could fish the divine map mod and get out with 15-40 div's (depending on your setup). It was fixed roughly 24 hours later, and the mod was made so much more rare that map fishing for it was too time consuming and not worth it anymore. Same thing happened with the rogue exile allflame a few weeks later. That's two currency printing exploits "fixed" in a single month and everyone who abused this kept their currency and gained leverage on the market.

If those for some reason were eternal orbs, you may have had grounds for comparison, however that's not the case, isn't it?

who cares about standard really?

the bug have been living for over a month, nobody was complaining, just have fun. This dont break the economy as the first bugs of the league and they didnt reset anything so...

in addition to that, the moto of GGG was find this hidden recipe, look for this cool interaction, so players did this no official statement on GGG saying it was a bug and not an intended interaction and suddenly people ask for bans and shit?

4 weeks into the league... you need to chill.