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I used a similar method with my old laptop to play Lord of the Rings Online when I traveled. Instead of creating a Ramdisk, you could use a fast access usb flash drive to load all the textures. It made a world of difference in game performance, especially since it only had Intel graphics chip. I wonder if something similar could be done with POE for people with lower end system specs? The program to load the files from the flash drive was called, LOTRO Flash Boost. Any tech savy folks have thoughts on that?	Posted by Maelliv#4286 on Jun 11, 2012, 12:57:14 AM Quote this Post
" anubite wrote: If you have over 8 GB of memory you're a nut in the first place! No OS or program in existence can make use of that. Can you even use it to store loaded information with something like ramdisk? That'd be the only practical use for memory over 8 GB. Memory is basically free.. There is no reason not to stuff your computer full of it. "That's how you die properly, Sailor Boy.."	Posted by jawsofhana#6369 on Jun 11, 2012, 7:46:01 AM Alpha Member Quote this Post
I'm going full out on my next system and going for 60+GB of RAM hopefully going to beable to get a dual processor board that can support a good 12 x 8GB sticks, if they go back to tri-channel. Thought there is quad channel now which is even more fingers crossed, 96Gb on a tri-channel dual cpu, 128gb on the quad if it comes around haswell time, or next gen after that. though I'm sure we'll be seeing 16gb sticks soon too. When we start seeing affordable 16gb sticks and decent quadchannels, a dedicated RAM disk is very possible. Last edited by Evir#5190 on Jun 11, 2012, 10:03:53 AM	Posted by Evir#5190 on Jun 11, 2012, 10:03:25 AM Quote this Post
" Neokolzia wrote: I'm going full out on my next system and going for 60+GB of RAM hopefully going to beable to get a dual processor board that can support a good 12 x 8GB sticks, if they go back to tri-channel. Thought there is quad channel now which is even more fingers crossed, 96Gb on a tri-channel dual cpu, 128gb on the quad if it comes around haswell time, or next gen after that. though I'm sure we'll be seeing 16gb sticks soon too. When we start seeing affordable 16gb sticks and decent quadchannels, a dedicated RAM disk is very possible. Says the rich Diamond Supporter. Just kidding, love ya!	Posted by teacherpeter#1699 on Jun 11, 2012, 10:28:59 AM Quote this Post
There are gamers out there without SSD's ? wow Wand's don't kill people, i kill people, with Wand's	Posted by Niburu#7883 on Jun 11, 2012, 3:28:00 PM Quote this Post
" It's quite easy to use up 8gb or more, it just depends what you are doing. 3d modeling, animating, rendering, really high quality photoshop(or whatever other program you use) painting can take up quite a lot. Add that on top of multitasking and you can easily burn through 8gb. For the average person though, probably not going to get that close to 8gb with just games or multitasking. Operating Systems cannot make use of more than 64 bit address spaces, meaning, even if you install 1000 gb on your computer, your OS will only manage 8 of it for programs and tasks, the other 992 gb of ram you bought is sitting around uselessly doing nothing. This is generally why people who have PCs with >8 gb are laughed at. You'd need a 8192 bit operating system to handle up to 1024 gb of ram, or 128bit to handle 16gb - neither of which exist. 4gb for 32 bit systems. It's the same with files - you'll be hard pressed to have a single file over 4gb on many file systems. It has to be broken up. I'm not sure how ramdisk works, but I guess it could allocate tempdata in ram over 8gb? I have no idea and that was my question. I don't think it can, but that'd be my guess. My Keystone Ideas: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/744282 Last edited by anubite#0701 on Jun 11, 2012, 4:30:59 PM	Posted by anubite#0701 on Jun 11, 2012, 4:27:03 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" Operating Systems cannot make use of more than 64 bit address spaces, meaning, even if you install 1000 gb on your computer, your OS will only manage 8 of it for programs and tasks, the other 992 gb of ram you bought is sitting around uselessly doing nothing. You'd need a 8192 bit operating system to handle up to 1024 gb of ram. 4gb for 32 bit systems. It's the same with files - you'll be hard pressed to have a single file over 4gb on many file systems. It has to be broken up. I'm not sure how ramdisk works, but I guess it could allocate tempdata in ram over 8gb? I have no idea and that was my question. Not to sure about this, havn't had more than 8g, but I think its safe to assume that servers manage to use mor ethan 8g. Anyways, yes you allocate the ram as disk space and the OS doesn't touch it. so you can allocate that other 992gb of ram as Disk space. however its volitile ram so at reboot data is lost. that piece of software i link in the first post allows you to automatically load/backup whatever data your using it for. Last edited by lucid88#5384 on Jun 11, 2012, 4:33:33 PM	Posted by lucid88#5384 on Jun 11, 2012, 4:33:17 PM Quote this Post
" anubite wrote: Operating Systems cannot make use of more than 64 bit address spaces, meaning, even if you install 1000 gb on your computer, your OS will only manage 8 of it for programs and tasks, the other 992 gb of ram you bought is sitting around uselessly doing nothing. This is generally why people who have PCs with >8 gb are laughed at. You'd need a 8192 bit operating system to handle up to 1024 gb of ram, or 128bit to handle 16gb - neither of which exist. 4gb for 32 bit systems. It's the same with files - you'll be hard pressed to have a single file over 4gb on many file systems. It has to be broken up. I'm not sure how ramdisk works, but I guess it could allocate tempdata in ram over 8gb? I have no idea and that was my question. I don't think it can, but that'd be my guess. Your lack of understanding is disturbing. 32bit addressing -> 2^32 = 4294967296 = 4GiB = 4 Gibibytes (GigaBinaryByte) 64bit addressing -> 2^64 = 18446744073709551616 = 16EiB = 4 Exbibytes Admittedly current generation hardware & operating systems do not allow the full 64bits of address space to be utilized as such; most are limited to 'just' 44bits (16TiB; Tebibyte). It'll be a long time before machines have 16TiB of memory, and a long long LONG time before technology approaches the limitations of 64bit addressing. Make Elite IV:Dangerous happen! Pledge your backing at KICKSTARTER! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous Last edited by TJJ#0979 on Jun 11, 2012, 5:59:21 PM	Posted by TJJ#0979 on Jun 11, 2012, 5:58:19 PM Quote this Post
" Xendran wrote: " Joel_GGG wrote: With a ramdisk files still need to be copied to it from the hard drive after each boot right? I just bought an SSD, makes a world of difference. Might not be as fast as a ram disk, but it's still pretty damned fast. Which SSD did you get and how would you say it performs compared to the price? I've been meaning to get some SSDs (One for dedicated OS, one for games), but the price has put me off a little bit, since i just spent a bunch on an i5 3570k, GTX 570 and Sabertooth Z77 I highly recommend the Crucial C300 128gb SSD. Nice build!	Posted by aurisacra#1002 on Jun 11, 2012, 7:50:28 PM Quote this Post
" Your lack of understanding is disturbing. 32bit addressing -> 2^32 = 4294967296 = 4GiB = 4 Gibibytes (GigaBinaryByte) 64bit addressing -> 2^64 = 18446744073709551616 = 16EiB = 4 Exbibytes Admittedly current generation hardware & operating systems do not allow the full 64bits of address space to be utilized as such; most are limited to 'just' 44bits (16TiB; Tebibyte). It'll be a long time before machines have 16TiB of memory, and a long long LONG time before technology approaches the limitations of 64bit addressing. Thx for clearing that up :D i knew it was somethin like 32gb but wasn't positive. didn't feel like lookin it up!	Posted by lucid88#5384 on Jun 11, 2012, 10:22:22 PM Quote this Post