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SunsetVista wrote:
I don't like that the alternate quality gems are being deleted. The possibility of that awesome reward was the only reason I put up with Heist anymore at all. I dislike the 20% quality recipe not working for active skill gems now, and the new gems being locked behind eternal labyrinth. I do not want to grind that anymore. Combined with the trend of our loot and whole mechanics being deleted, I don't think I should spend my time in this game. I was looking forward to the new league, and tried to take into account the future requirements POE and POE2 when I picked parts for a new computer. But, I respect my time so I'll find another ARPG to play.
Bye! o/
Have a great time in your new game!
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Posted byTeaThinker#1483on Dec 1, 2023, 12:02:20 PM
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TizeNO wrote:
Righteous Fire "No longer Deals 39-2447.9 base Fire Damage per Second. Now deals 70% of your Maximum Life and Energy Shield as Base Fire Damage per second (both previously 35%)."
Lmao so you get back that dmg with 12k life or shield which is kinda ok, but if you played RF you know that RF dealt dmg because you had lvl 27 skill gem, with which RF dealt 7167.2 base dmg hahaha
I expected nerf and was ready for it, even big one but this is like insane nerf :) You now effectively lost like80% dmg.
Anyone know how we could replace this to have decent clear speed now, is flame dash now viable to replace with something i highly doubt it but maybe?
Not idea if you are trolling?
70% of 12.000 is 8400.
With 5k Life you get 3500 fire damage, so that's around 21% more damage than before. (2447)
Time to get back to elementary school to learn basic math?
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Posted byTeaThinker#1483on Dec 1, 2023, 12:06:09 PM
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Well, it's an interesting path you are taking with the gem system but I also think that removing stuff in the standard league is uncalled-for.
While I understand that it could bring technical issues in the future, it sure sucks that people who often worked hard to get the alternate gems will see them removed with just a snap of the fingers.
Imagine you have been working on your garden for a while and out of nowhere someone just comes and snatch your tomatoes and berries out of the argument that now salads are what's legal to eat. That doesn't feel really good does it ?
Why bother interacting with the different systems in the game if down the line we see all of our work and rewards just thrown down the drain ?
Don't get me wrong, I have spent quite some time and money on the game meaning I enjoy most of it. It's just that I don't feel all too confident about such decision to not let the alternate gems in the game the same way you let the enchants go legacy.
I ask you please to reconcider this point.
Outside of that good luck to those willing to participate in the league.
Last edited by Bitter__Moon#5674 on Dec 1, 2023, 12:22:47 PM
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Posted byBitter__Moon#5674on Dec 1, 2023, 12:20:56 PM
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UGA
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Posted by1kuhar#7272on Dec 1, 2023, 12:21:37 PM
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3XE wrote:
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TizeNO wrote:
Righteous Fire "No longer Deals 39-2447.9 base Fire Damage per Second. Now deals 70% of your Maximum Life and Energy Shield as Base Fire Damage per second (both previously 35%)."
Lmao so you get back that dmg with 12k life or shield which is kinda ok, but if you played RF you know that RF dealt dmg because you had lvl 27 skill gem, with which RF dealt 7167.2 base dmg hahaha
I expected nerf and was ready for it, even big one but this is like insane nerf :) You now effectively lost like80% dmg.
Anyone know how we could replace this to have decent clear speed now, is flame dash now viable to replace with something i highly doubt it but maybe?
Not idea if you are trolling?
70% of 12.000 is 8400.
With 5k Life you get 3500 fire damage, so that's around 21% more damage than before. (2447)
Time to get back to elementary school to learn basic math?
Dude, before you would have around 4200damage with 5k life:
5000hp (35% is 1750) so 1750+(level20RF)2450 = 4200DMG and that's only a level 20gem, what are u calculating? I'm not even talking about high level gems like 27+
New gem lost it's BUILT IN DPS - 70% damage from your HP (5000) is 3500DMG. SO that's 700dps lower.
I'm not even sure how you get to DMG you've had before, maybe with very very high ES or a hybrid... IDK.
Stupid PoE2 Particle System Patch...
New mute system is another hot garbage. Last edited by y3lw0rC#4020 on Dec 1, 2023, 12:32:24 PM
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Posted byy3lw0rC#4020on Dec 1, 2023, 12:27:13 PM
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I dont think the alt qualities should be removed outright. Just leave them in like the item quantity gem and if someone puts them in the uber lab crafting bench have it behave like enchanting over an enchant and have it just rewrite/remove that way. I loved heist league, ultimatum was a hard no in the HC league and will still be(from a you cant see a damn thing going on pov)
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Posted byBraidsBathory#5911on Dec 1, 2023, 12:33:23 PM
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More teasers in the upcoming days before league start please, thank you
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Posted byDmon607#7569on Dec 1, 2023, 12:34:58 PM
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Bitter__Moon wrote:
Well, it's an interesting path you are taking with the gem system but I also think that removing stuff in the standard league is uncalled-for.
While I understand that it could bring technical issues in the future, it sure sucks that people who often worked hard to get the alternate gems will see them removed with just a snap of the fingers.
Imagine you have been working on your garden for a while and out of nowhere someone just comes and snatch your tomatoes and berries out of the argument that now salads are what's legal to eat. That doesn't feel really good does it ?
Why bother interacting with the different systems in the game if down the line we see all of our work and rewards just thrown down the drain ?
Don't get me wrong, I have spent quite some time and money on the game meaning I enjoy most of it. It's just that I don't feel all too confident about such decision to not let the alternate gems in the game the same way you let the enchants go legacy.
I ask you please to reconcider this point.
Outside of that good luck to those willing to participate in the league.
What?.... Alternate quality gems weren't hard to obtain
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Posted byDmon607#7569on Dec 1, 2023, 12:39:31 PM
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3XE wrote:
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TizeNO wrote:
Righteous Fire "No longer Deals 39-2447.9 base Fire Damage per Second. Now deals 70% of your Maximum Life and Energy Shield as Base Fire Damage per second (both previously 35%)."
Lmao so you get back that dmg with 12k life or shield which is kinda ok, but if you played RF you know that RF dealt dmg because you had lvl 27 skill gem, with which RF dealt 7167.2 base dmg hahaha
I expected nerf and was ready for it, even big one but this is like insane nerf :) You now effectively lost like80% dmg.
Anyone know how we could replace this to have decent clear speed now, is flame dash now viable to replace with something i highly doubt it but maybe?
Not idea if you are trolling?
70% of 12.000 is 8400.
With 5k Life you get 3500 fire damage, so that's around 21% more damage than before. (2447)
Time to get back to elementary school to learn basic math?
Uff, maybe you should review your own math. The base damage of RF wasn't just 2447.9. It was 2447.9 PLUS 35% of (Max HP + Max ES).
So now, you break even when 35% of your (Max HP + Max ES) equals 2447.9, which happens when your (Max HP + Max ES) equals 6994.
This, of course, only assumes a max. level 20 gem. Most people aimed beyond that.
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Posted byGregoryAdams#7051on Dec 1, 2023, 12:40:05 PM
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Dmon607 wrote:
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Bitter__Moon wrote:
Well, it's an interesting path you are taking with the gem system but I also think that removing stuff in the standard league is uncalled-for.
While I understand that it could bring technical issues in the future, it sure sucks that people who often worked hard to get the alternate gems will see them removed with just a snap of the fingers.
Imagine you have been working on your garden for a while and out of nowhere someone just comes and snatch your tomatoes and berries out of the argument that now salads are what's legal to eat. That doesn't feel really good does it ?
Why bother interacting with the different systems in the game if down the line we see all of our work and rewards just thrown down the drain ?
Don't get me wrong, I have spent quite some time and money on the game meaning I enjoy most of it. It's just that I don't feel all too confident about such decision to not let the alternate gems in the game the same way you let the enchants go legacy.
I ask you please to reconcider this point.
Outside of that good luck to those willing to participate in the league.
What?.... Alternate quality gems weren't hard to obtain
In standard trade is a bit of a nightmare in my experience so trying to acquire some specific alternate gems without that tool is pretty long and random. In a league I can see it being not such an issue however. With the coming changes it is not going to be a concern anyway.
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Posted byBitter__Moon#5674on Dec 1, 2023, 12:54:01 PM
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