Quantifying the Ruthless Character EXP Penalty

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chimurestaurat wrote:
Thanks for the correction,
Np.
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chimurestaurat wrote:
Zrevnur, and grats on 94!
Thanks.

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chimurestaurat wrote:
My 92R char's gems seem to get exactly 9% of a Bone Husk's 18025 exp, rounded down. Weird, that's almost the same that a standard char gets in general, 10%.

Then I tried on my 80R char and he got exactly 4% rounded down. Seems like Ruthless gems get a lot less exp at lower char levels, then as your char levels up the gem penalty decreases and comes closer to what they get in STD. That's good news for the Empower I just found.

Bone Husk @94 still gives 21 XP, (added cold damage) gem XP gain was 721. This is 4% of those 18025 XP.
No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle!
Last edited by Zrevnur#2026 on Feb 17, 2023, 9:25:01 PM
Oh. Hm. So maybe only Empower and the other 2 gems get more exp in Ruthless? I only looked at Empower for that 9% and double checked. It has no quality and I have nothing on me that increases its quality.

edit: Well, now I'm getting 721 on Empower too, and all other gems. Guess I was insane/retarded last night. It's just 4% across all gems.
Last edited by chimurestaurat#7524 on Feb 18, 2023, 10:05:53 AM
Update: We are testing on T12 Erebix now, at least at high levels. The T1 map test was just losing way too much accuracy to rounding errors. Thanks to Pools for our first Lv97 test and grats on the level!
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chimurestaurat wrote:
Update: We are testing on T12 Erebix now, at least at high levels. The T1 map test was just losing way too much accuracy to rounding errors. Thanks to Pools for our first Lv97 test and grats on the level!

Cemetery boss ('Erebix') @95: 992 XP
Orchard boss @95: 1124 XP
No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle!
Ty and grats on 95! First to outlevel Catpost!
Why is this info not on the wiki yet? I've been trying to find this out for a long time to estimate how long lvl 100 will take for the highest level player in ruthless std atm which is lvl 98.
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KatCut wrote:
Why is this info not on the wiki yet?
Its volunteer work. So if its not there then that simply is because no one volunteered to put it there.
No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle!
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KatCut wrote:
Why is this info not on the wiki yet? I've been trying to find this out for a long time to estimate how long lvl 100 will take for the highest level player in ruthless std atm which is lvl 98.


Pools hit 98 and immediately quit before I could get some tests out of him. Not sure if the penalty increase drove him away or it was just that D4 released at that time. He told me he was a big Diablo player for ages.

My bet now is that Stalkis will get the 100 if he decides to continue in permanent league. His Deadeye is already well into 97 in Necropolis, decked out in mirror-tier rares.

Sad how 98 is about half of the work to 100 in normal PoE. With the penalty rising in Ruthless, 98 is nowhere near half. The mode existed for over a year and a half now, and nobody is even close to 50% there yet.
Last edited by chimurestaurat#7524 on Jul 7, 2024, 8:39:42 AM
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chimurestaurat wrote:
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KatCut wrote:
Why is this info not on the wiki yet? I've been trying to find this out for a long time to estimate how long lvl 100 will take for the highest level player in ruthless std atm which is lvl 98.


Pools hit 98 and immediately quit before I could get some tests out of him. Not sure if the penalty increase drove him away or it was just that D4 released at that time. He told me he was a big Diablo player for ages.

My bet now is that Stalkis will get the 100 if he decides to continue in permanent league. His Deadeye is already well into 97 in Necropolis, decked out in mirror-tier rares.

Sad how 98 is about half of the work to 100 in normal PoE. With the penalty rising in Ruthless, 98 is nowhere near half. The mode existed for over a year and a half now, and nobody is even close to 50% there yet.


That is oddly terrifying to ponder on, imagine if not even 50% through 99 is anywhere near 100? What if half way through 100 is closer to 50% of 99 to 100 than from 1 to 99... This is more than terrifying to me, I don't know why but it creeps me the fuck out.
I tested Erebix in T12 at lvl 98 and got 267 exp. I appreciate the thread, and let me know if there's anything else you want me to test.

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